Hard fight. Do you realize how many cops, prison guards, lawyers, and judges have jobs that depend on the never ending drug war? Not to mention the lost opportunity for no knock raids, cool SWAT teams with tanks, warrantless searches, property forfeiture, and other cool benefits would be lost to government agents?
This is while they’ll fight tooth and nail to keep it illegal. I had also heard rumors that the textile industries had a hand in it’s prohibition, since hemp is such a durable fiber.
Only problem I see is if the regulate/tax pot like they do cigaretts and alcohol it will create a huge black market for the people trying to avoid taxes at the state level.
JimB — We may have to worry about border smuggling, but at least the South Dakotans don’t come over the Minnesota border with heavy weaponry. That’s more than you can say about the dope smugglers from Mexico.
I’d like to see controlled clinical trials, and a nonclinical battery in rodents (with the full behavioral analysis and brain pathology).
People used to consume morphine and cocaine in every day drugs. I have no confidence in the claims that weed is less bad than alcohol.
Dusty’s Plan For America: anyone can waive their right to bear arms, their ‘rights’ to social security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, every other government funded healthcare, and government funded education to get a license to use whatever drugs they want.
“So people won’t get too stoned to remember to celebrate Hitler’s Birthday.”
Fascists.
dive: Oddly, some cops and judges and lawyers still want the drug war to end and say so, it appears. (Not sure about prison guards, but it’s not like there aren’t plenty of other crimes.)
Bert: None, they’d just get released. There’s no case for recompense for “something that used to be illegal but isn’t now”.
Pyro: Rumors like that are pretty much BS – and don’t matter at all now, since it’s not 1930 and we have immensely durable synthetics that out-compete.
Reminds me of people complaining that “big paper” wants to keep “hemp” down – without realizing that Boise Cascade would love to grow pot for paper, since it’s a lot cheaper and faster than growing modified cottonwood for pulp…
Reasons 1 and 3 are incompatible– “Keep your laws off our bodies” and “Tax the shit out of what we do with our bodies”.
The principled argument, i.e. the one that isn’t subject to endless debate, is number three. It’s all you need, but forget about the needless comparisons to alcohol or anything else, because there you’re opening yourself up to more irrelevant debate that serves no purpose other than to pull you off topic.
Don’t fall into the trap of accepting the anti rights movement’s assertions. Comparing the effects of alcohol to pot is falling into that trap; “If it’s ‘bad’ for us it must/should be restricted…”
NO, Little Grasshopper! If we’re not violating anyone else’s rights, it’s none of the government’s business. Ever. Period. Stay on topic, reject the left’s fundamental premises, and you can’t lose.
Now; if you’re just looking for a new government revenue stream, then you can all go to hell. AT LEAST BE HONEST about it and don’t give us that “It’s our bodies and our right..” bullshit, because I know you communists out there don’t mean a single word of it.
April 20th, 2011 at 10:49 am
Hard fight. Do you realize how many cops, prison guards, lawyers, and judges have jobs that depend on the never ending drug war? Not to mention the lost opportunity for no knock raids, cool SWAT teams with tanks, warrantless searches, property forfeiture, and other cool benefits would be lost to government agents?
April 20th, 2011 at 11:30 am
I wonder, if pot was legalized, what kind of litigation that would open up from those proscecuted under old law ?
April 20th, 2011 at 11:58 am
@divemedic
This is while they’ll fight tooth and nail to keep it illegal. I had also heard rumors that the textile industries had a hand in it’s prohibition, since hemp is such a durable fiber.
April 20th, 2011 at 12:42 pm
Only problem I see is if the regulate/tax pot like they do cigaretts and alcohol it will create a huge black market for the people trying to avoid taxes at the state level.
April 20th, 2011 at 1:29 pm
JimB — We may have to worry about border smuggling, but at least the South Dakotans don’t come over the Minnesota border with heavy weaponry. That’s more than you can say about the dope smugglers from Mexico.
April 20th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
I’d like to see controlled clinical trials, and a nonclinical battery in rodents (with the full behavioral analysis and brain pathology).
People used to consume morphine and cocaine in every day drugs. I have no confidence in the claims that weed is less bad than alcohol.
Dusty’s Plan For America: anyone can waive their right to bear arms, their ‘rights’ to social security, Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, every other government funded healthcare, and government funded education to get a license to use whatever drugs they want.
April 20th, 2011 at 2:06 pm
“So people won’t get too stoned to remember to celebrate Hitler’s Birthday.”
Fascists.
dive: Oddly, some cops and judges and lawyers still want the drug war to end and say so, it appears. (Not sure about prison guards, but it’s not like there aren’t plenty of other crimes.)
Bert: None, they’d just get released. There’s no case for recompense for “something that used to be illegal but isn’t now”.
Pyro: Rumors like that are pretty much BS – and don’t matter at all now, since it’s not 1930 and we have immensely durable synthetics that out-compete.
Reminds me of people complaining that “big paper” wants to keep “hemp” down – without realizing that Boise Cascade would love to grow pot for paper, since it’s a lot cheaper and faster than growing modified cottonwood for pulp…
April 20th, 2011 at 3:48 pm
Reasons 1 and 3 are incompatible– “Keep your laws off our bodies” and “Tax the shit out of what we do with our bodies”.
The principled argument, i.e. the one that isn’t subject to endless debate, is number three. It’s all you need, but forget about the needless comparisons to alcohol or anything else, because there you’re opening yourself up to more irrelevant debate that serves no purpose other than to pull you off topic.
Don’t fall into the trap of accepting the anti rights movement’s assertions. Comparing the effects of alcohol to pot is falling into that trap; “If it’s ‘bad’ for us it must/should be restricted…”
NO, Little Grasshopper! If we’re not violating anyone else’s rights, it’s none of the government’s business. Ever. Period. Stay on topic, reject the left’s fundamental premises, and you can’t lose.
Now; if you’re just looking for a new government revenue stream, then you can all go to hell. AT LEAST BE HONEST about it and don’t give us that “It’s our bodies and our right..” bullshit, because I know you communists out there don’t mean a single word of it.
April 20th, 2011 at 4:34 pm
hey dusty, why don’t you try “it’s none of your goddamn business”?