I don’t know why there isn’t a concealed carry 12 shot .22LR with a built-in mag, all carbon-fibered and slicked up with a lazer sight. It would do for a lot of cases.
I don’t know why there isn’t a concealed carry 12 shot .22LR with a built-in mag, all carbon-fibered and slicked up with a lazer sight. It would do for a lot of cases.
Probably for the same reason there isn’t a concealed carry polymer .25ACP or .32ACP – they simply aren’t appropriate calibers for self-defense carry anymore. Not when you can easily carry a .380ACP or even 9mm in a similar sized package. Remember, even the .380 – currently considered the minimum acceptable self-defense caliber – is a compromise that gives up a lot of effectiveness in exchange for the small size of the gun.
Twelve rounds or more in a small package would be nice, but I’d rather have more effective rounds, even if it meant having fewer.
I’d rather have a single-stack of 9mm or .45 to a double-stack of .22 or .25 (not to mention the feeding issues with double-stack rimmed or semi-rimmed cartridges)
Small light bullets are just so unpredictable in terminal ballistics.
Not seeing the point, myself. I guess some people just like buying presents for their guns…
Jake: Kel-Tec P32. And arguably the Taurus Millennium Pro, though it’s somewhat larger.
So that’s two.
(And many more in non-polymer like those Seecamps that were big recently… but still made for concealed carry.
You might not like ’em or think they’re wise but they exist in some quantity.
Other people seem to think they’re perfectly “appropriate”, on the grounds that they’re less punishing than 9mm or even .380 – and the gun you practice with and carry is much, much better than the one you don’t because it’s unpleasant to fire.)
After taking a look at their site, I see that they do make it in Black with a threaded end. Wonder how they would balance in one’s hand with a good suppressor on the end? Then one could have a nice Rabbit/Squirrel gun or pest control gun, or in case of a Level 4 Zed Outbreak, easy head shots w/o giving away one’s position. Not that there would ever really be a need to do Head shots from 50 yards w/o giving away one’s position in the real world, of course.
“Wonder how they would balance in one’s hand with a good suppressor on the end?”
Poorly. Normally weight is a non-issue with .22 silencers, but when these lightweight Rugeresque uppers are concerned, it does become noticable. A quality can that’s all stainless (e.g. SWR Spectre) will be quite the muzzle weight.
I have a Pac-Light upper on my Mark II, with iron sights instead of the rail. It made a noticeable improvement in my ability to shoot accurately with it — a combination of longer sight radius, bigger sights and a bit less weight. The little Rugers are already excellent practice guns (if I had to do it all over, I’d get a 22/45, as the grip and controls largely match a 1911) and the upper makes them even better.
May 10th, 2011 at 11:12 am
Wow. I came THIS close || to posting that pic today with my SA roundup…
Man, those are some *SWEET* Rugers…
May 10th, 2011 at 11:16 am
Oh wow a ray gun..
May 10th, 2011 at 11:17 am
I don’t know why there isn’t a concealed carry 12 shot .22LR with a built-in mag, all carbon-fibered and slicked up with a lazer sight. It would do for a lot of cases.
May 10th, 2011 at 11:55 am
the hooks almost look like a bolt on grip adaptor
May 10th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Probably for the same reason there isn’t a concealed carry polymer .25ACP or .32ACP – they simply aren’t appropriate calibers for self-defense carry anymore. Not when you can easily carry a .380ACP or even 9mm in a similar sized package. Remember, even the .380 – currently considered the minimum acceptable self-defense caliber – is a compromise that gives up a lot of effectiveness in exchange for the small size of the gun.
Twelve rounds or more in a small package would be nice, but I’d rather have more effective rounds, even if it meant having fewer.
May 10th, 2011 at 3:09 pm
+1 Jake
I’d rather have a single-stack of 9mm or .45 to a double-stack of .22 or .25 (not to mention the feeding issues with double-stack rimmed or semi-rimmed cartridges)
Small light bullets are just so unpredictable in terminal ballistics.
May 10th, 2011 at 3:36 pm
It ain’t black, so it can’t be tactical!
Not seeing the point, myself. I guess some people just like buying presents for their guns…
Jake: Kel-Tec P32. And arguably the Taurus Millennium Pro, though it’s somewhat larger.
So that’s two.
(And many more in non-polymer like those Seecamps that were big recently… but still made for concealed carry.
You might not like ’em or think they’re wise but they exist in some quantity.
Other people seem to think they’re perfectly “appropriate”, on the grounds that they’re less punishing than 9mm or even .380 – and the gun you practice with and carry is much, much better than the one you don’t because it’s unpleasant to fire.)
May 10th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
After taking a look at their site, I see that they do make it in Black with a threaded end. Wonder how they would balance in one’s hand with a good suppressor on the end? Then one could have a nice Rabbit/Squirrel gun or pest control gun, or in case of a Level 4 Zed Outbreak, easy head shots w/o giving away one’s position. Not that there would ever really be a need to do Head shots from 50 yards w/o giving away one’s position in the real world, of course.
May 10th, 2011 at 5:54 pm
“Wonder how they would balance in one’s hand with a good suppressor on the end?”
Poorly. Normally weight is a non-issue with .22 silencers, but when these lightweight Rugeresque uppers are concerned, it does become noticable. A quality can that’s all stainless (e.g. SWR Spectre) will be quite the muzzle weight.
May 10th, 2011 at 11:21 pm
The S&W .500 was enough gun for Driver to carry in the movie “Faster”
May 11th, 2011 at 7:24 am
I have a Pac-Light upper on my Mark II, with iron sights instead of the rail. It made a noticeable improvement in my ability to shoot accurately with it — a combination of longer sight radius, bigger sights and a bit less weight. The little Rugers are already excellent practice guns (if I had to do it all over, I’d get a 22/45, as the grip and controls largely match a 1911) and the upper makes them even better.