One of the small joys of having the appropriate FFL licensing is the ability to put together a full auto Glock 18 to put in a RONI…the RONI is here and we are currently waiting for some parts…can’t wait to give it a try! I got to shoot the RONI with a semi-auto Glock installed at SHOT 2010 and was pretty impressed with the platform.
@Bryan: The RONI itself does not have a barrel. The barrel length is predicated on the length of the barrel of the handgun installed into the RONI…so you would have to have a 16″ barrel installed in the pistol to avoid NFA registration.
@Timmeehh: I totally agree with you on cost issues here…by the time you add a RONI and the tax stamp you’re well on your way to a really good carbine (or a cheap carbine and some ammo!) If it weren’t for the fact that we have a manufacturing license which eliminates the $200 NFA charge I wouldn’t be interested in obtaining a RONI. I do think that our local police departments might have some interest in them as a low cost platform that works with firearms they already have a significant investment in…once you factor out the NFA expense and factor in parts/maintenance commonality it becomes a more practical solution.
At 420 Euros ($592.68 today via XE), it’s priced above the Mec-Tec systems and well above Kel-Tecs Sub 2000 carbines.
I am a carbine-with-companion pistol freak, and own 5 such sets, including one with the Marlin Camp and two Kel-Tecs (also two Marlin 1894 carbines which go with revolvers). I wouldn’t get this system OR the Mec-Tec because there is fiddling to be done to get the pistol into carbine form. If that fiddling has to be done in the heat of a firefight, you are doomed if you fiddle.
Commonality of magazines is a VERY good idea if the caliber is suitable to shoot at the ranges your carbine will have to be used at. If it won’t reach out to those ranges, arm yourself with a carbine that will, and carry the extra weight of the heavier carbine and it’s magazines.
As with all tales of the gun, it’s always about employment. Eye-candy carbines with 4″ barrels don’t have a lot of employment potential, IMHO.
@Rivrdog: I found the RONI to be acceptably accurate for a pistol caliber carbine at 50 yards…the extended sight base, shoulder stock, and forward grip compensated well for the 4″ barrel. I would like to see some terminal velocity/ballistics information though to determine how effective it is at longer ranges. Our target for sales is that most of a local LE departments have armories full of Glock pistols and this would allow them to set some up for use as carbines at minimal cost while maintaining compatibility with mags, spare parts, acquired repair/service knowledge, etc. As for pricing, the RONI is distributed via EMA Tactical/Command Arms Accessories in the US and has a $399.99 MSRP.
May 13th, 2011 at 8:56 am
One nice thing, they do have one with a 16″ barrel so no need to SBR the carbine.
May 13th, 2011 at 9:26 am
Friend of mine has one, they are sort of nifty.
I’m waiting on the Hera version that takes a .45 Glock
May 13th, 2011 at 11:08 am
Smells like one of those things that would run afoul of the NFA if you switched back and forth….
May 13th, 2011 at 12:43 pm
Or buy a used S&W 59XX and a used Marlin Camp 9 for less money than a Glock and RONI, you’d still have a carbine & pistol combo that shares mags.
May 13th, 2011 at 12:47 pm
One of the small joys of having the appropriate FFL licensing is the ability to put together a full auto Glock 18 to put in a RONI…the RONI is here and we are currently waiting for some parts…can’t wait to give it a try! I got to shoot the RONI with a semi-auto Glock installed at SHOT 2010 and was pretty impressed with the platform.
@Bryan: The RONI itself does not have a barrel. The barrel length is predicated on the length of the barrel of the handgun installed into the RONI…so you would have to have a 16″ barrel installed in the pistol to avoid NFA registration.
May 13th, 2011 at 1:16 pm
@Timmeehh: I totally agree with you on cost issues here…by the time you add a RONI and the tax stamp you’re well on your way to a really good carbine (or a cheap carbine and some ammo!) If it weren’t for the fact that we have a manufacturing license which eliminates the $200 NFA charge I wouldn’t be interested in obtaining a RONI. I do think that our local police departments might have some interest in them as a low cost platform that works with firearms they already have a significant investment in…once you factor out the NFA expense and factor in parts/maintenance commonality it becomes a more practical solution.
May 13th, 2011 at 2:02 pm
At 420 Euros ($592.68 today via XE), it’s priced above the Mec-Tec systems and well above Kel-Tecs Sub 2000 carbines.
I am a carbine-with-companion pistol freak, and own 5 such sets, including one with the Marlin Camp and two Kel-Tecs (also two Marlin 1894 carbines which go with revolvers). I wouldn’t get this system OR the Mec-Tec because there is fiddling to be done to get the pistol into carbine form. If that fiddling has to be done in the heat of a firefight, you are doomed if you fiddle.
Commonality of magazines is a VERY good idea if the caliber is suitable to shoot at the ranges your carbine will have to be used at. If it won’t reach out to those ranges, arm yourself with a carbine that will, and carry the extra weight of the heavier carbine and it’s magazines.
As with all tales of the gun, it’s always about employment. Eye-candy carbines with 4″ barrels don’t have a lot of employment potential, IMHO.
May 13th, 2011 at 2:19 pm
@Rivrdog: I found the RONI to be acceptably accurate for a pistol caliber carbine at 50 yards…the extended sight base, shoulder stock, and forward grip compensated well for the 4″ barrel. I would like to see some terminal velocity/ballistics information though to determine how effective it is at longer ranges. Our target for sales is that most of a local LE departments have armories full of Glock pistols and this would allow them to set some up for use as carbines at minimal cost while maintaining compatibility with mags, spare parts, acquired repair/service knowledge, etc. As for pricing, the RONI is distributed via EMA Tactical/Command Arms Accessories in the US and has a $399.99 MSRP.
May 17th, 2011 at 11:17 pm
Is that “Roni” or “Rooney”…?