So, do I shift into my special point-shooting grip (index finger pointing along the slide, middle finger on the trigger) before or after I duct tape the trauma plates onto my chest and back?
And can I effectively perform a one-handed slide rack with this grip?
You may ‘naturally’ be able to point your finger but the middle finger is not wired to pull triggers as anyone who handles power drills and the like know.
It’s the index finger than seems to be far more wired to have that kind of fine motor response.
As for sights… just practice bringing the gun up to sighted fire level and if you cannot see the sights then use the same presentation as IF you could see the sights. Even Applegate brought the gun right up to the sighted level and just looked at the target.
And Coopers ‘Modern technique’ just used the sights to verify alignment and they were not to be adjusted. His presentation (read draw and stance) was supposed to index the alignment just as Applegate’s did.
And inside 3 yards the speed rock or retention or 1/4 hip postion all works fine as none of them use the sights.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAahaha… ha… heh… *wipe tears from my eyes*
This guy’s been spouting his BS for ten years. I think the first time I saw him banned from a gun board was back in ’01. Now he’s decided to spam email gunbloggers…
Heh if I pulled my index finger off the trigger (it’s the left one) and used the next one, I’d never be able to fire more than once in a row. As it is, that finger locks the slide about 10% of the time on the skanky 1911 clone I have, so that’s a right handed pistol. Everything else is fine, though.
“Try that pointy-grip with a revolver, stick your sausage out there next to the forcing cone. How anybody could shoot a revolver is a mystery.”
Aint no mystery about it. You shoot a revolver with ONE hand, like I do. You might find this hard to believe but handguns were originally intended to be used in that manner.
I dont like these 2 handed holds of handguns, I feel like my movement is restricted. The way I see it, if I need 2 hands to shoot a gun it’s going to be a rifle or shotgun.
Two hands when you can; one hand when you have to. The 50% 2-handed, 25% R-hand-only, 25% L-hand-only training ratio used by the Rogers school is a good plan. For most shooters one handed shooting is a very weak skill that’s rarely practiced.
Seriously? That’s the goofiest point shooting technique, and the first time I’ve ever heard of it. And a weak weak critique of M-1911 point shooting.
Say what you will but I have found precious few handguns that point shoot for me as well as a G.I. M-1911a1 with standard short trigger and curved mainspring housing.
June 2nd, 2011 at 9:15 am
Well if you use only two fingers to grip your pistol, than it could be an issue
June 2nd, 2011 at 9:37 am
So, do I shift into my special point-shooting grip (index finger pointing along the slide, middle finger on the trigger) before or after I duct tape the trauma plates onto my chest and back?
And can I effectively perform a one-handed slide rack with this grip?
June 2nd, 2011 at 10:09 am
Well crap. I guess I’ll have to go back to using the sights.
June 2nd, 2011 at 10:27 am
Todd Jarrett Thumbs Forward grip does the same thing, but instead of your finger pushing out the slide stop pin, it’s your thumb. IF you are a lefty.
June 2nd, 2011 at 11:23 am
Oh god this asshole again.
A few months ago he was spamming every gun blog and forum with this same BS, trying to get people to buy his stupid point shooting add on guide.
June 2nd, 2011 at 11:55 am
Try that pointy-grip with a revolver, stick your sausage out there next to the forcing cone. How anybody could shoot a revolver is a mystery.
June 2nd, 2011 at 1:35 pm
You may ‘naturally’ be able to point your finger but the middle finger is not wired to pull triggers as anyone who handles power drills and the like know.
It’s the index finger than seems to be far more wired to have that kind of fine motor response.
As for sights… just practice bringing the gun up to sighted fire level and if you cannot see the sights then use the same presentation as IF you could see the sights. Even Applegate brought the gun right up to the sighted level and just looked at the target.
And Coopers ‘Modern technique’ just used the sights to verify alignment and they were not to be adjusted. His presentation (read draw and stance) was supposed to index the alignment just as Applegate’s did.
And inside 3 yards the speed rock or retention or 1/4 hip postion all works fine as none of them use the sights.
There really isn’t all that much difference.
June 2nd, 2011 at 1:37 pm
OK JOE?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAahaha… ha… heh… *wipe tears from my eyes*
This guy’s been spouting his BS for ten years. I think the first time I saw him banned from a gun board was back in ’01. Now he’s decided to spam email gunbloggers…
June 2nd, 2011 at 1:51 pm
Heh if I pulled my index finger off the trigger (it’s the left one) and used the next one, I’d never be able to fire more than once in a row. As it is, that finger locks the slide about 10% of the time on the skanky 1911 clone I have, so that’s a right handed pistol. Everything else is fine, though.
June 2nd, 2011 at 2:17 pm
“Try that pointy-grip with a revolver, stick your sausage out there next to the forcing cone. How anybody could shoot a revolver is a mystery.”
Aint no mystery about it. You shoot a revolver with ONE hand, like I do. You might find this hard to believe but handguns were originally intended to be used in that manner.
I dont like these 2 handed holds of handguns, I feel like my movement is restricted. The way I see it, if I need 2 hands to shoot a gun it’s going to be a rifle or shotgun.
June 2nd, 2011 at 3:49 pm
Two hands when you can; one hand when you have to. The 50% 2-handed, 25% R-hand-only, 25% L-hand-only training ratio used by the Rogers school is a good plan. For most shooters one handed shooting is a very weak skill that’s rarely practiced.
June 2nd, 2011 at 4:09 pm
If you use both hands to hold your pistol, what do you hold the your off hand pistol with?
June 3rd, 2011 at 3:19 am
Seriously? That’s the goofiest point shooting technique, and the first time I’ve ever heard of it. And a weak weak critique of M-1911 point shooting.
Say what you will but I have found precious few handguns that point shoot for me as well as a G.I. M-1911a1 with standard short trigger and curved mainspring housing.
June 8th, 2011 at 8:31 pm
Hey,
You talking about me? 🙂
No problem.
Guess you are afraid to try P&S. No?
http://www.pointshooting.com/1ascare1.htm
P&S works just fine and there are pics and videos proving that. Even works for shooting aerials.