Armor piercing ammo
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June 15th, 2011 at 11:51 am
I see my Spam Can of Surplus 8mm Mauser from Yugoslavia with the Steel Core isn’t on the list, so my Barricade Rifle is still cool to use.
June 15th, 2011 at 12:52 pm
Now, I was originally under the impression that SS109 was a tungsten carbide core, and trying to file through one seemed to confirm that; I filed for several minutes without denting the core. Maybe it was just very well hardened, but I don’t figure armor to stop this thing.
June 15th, 2011 at 1:13 pm
“You can rest easy that when a range calls for no AP rounds that you’ll be safe using M855 if desired.”
Yeah, right. Whatever the range operator, in whatever state of ignorance that operator acts, is what you get. Showing all the ATF regs in the world won’t do you a bit of good if the range operator thinks that the stuff you want to shoot is AP.
As far as pistol ammo goes, almost all the pistol ranges in my area (Portland, OR) require that you purchase and shoot THEIR ammo, so there’s nothing to be gained or lost there, either.
BTW, if the NRA was REALLY our friend, they’d lean on ranges that practice this form of piracy, but they won’t do that or many other things that mean much to we disgruntled, forced-to-be-a-member people.
June 15th, 2011 at 5:09 pm
It’s also best to make it clear that when he says “not armor piercing” he means “not legally ‘armor piercing ammunition’ under 18 USC 921(a)(17)(b)”.
Not that it won’t, in fact, penetrate armor more effectively because of the steel… er… penetrator core.
In normal or military terms, it seems undeniable that the whole point of the hardened steel core in the SS109 bullet is to penetrate light armor more effectively.
Thus, calling it “armor piercing” in that context, rather than that of 18 USC 921 and 922, is perfectly defensible.
(What Rivrdog* said – it might not be AP for purposes of the law, but your range operator can follow any standard he wants for deciding that, and if I was one, I’d certainly call anything with a steel rod in it AP for those purposes.
Of course, if I was a range operator I wouldn’t care about “AP ammo” in the first place, unless I was going to charge a fee for target plate replacement or something…)