If they don’t go beyond the level of the cases featured in the article, I can’t really argue with it. Notice they’re talking about 12 and 14 year-old kids that are 400 and 500+ pounds. Those really are cases of severe parental negligence, and possibly abuse.
Would anyone argue against a parent losing custody of a child for encouraging the child’s anorexia or bulimia (after repeated counseling/interventions), or for deliberately starving a child? This is basically the same thing, but on the opposite end of the spectrum.
There is, of course, the perennial problem involved in any government intervention – we simply can’t trust them to keep it limited to justified cases. Also, this being the MSM, I have to wonder if they’re intentionally not reporting something that would change my mind.
This also presupposes that the kid’s weight is acceptable in some way to the parents, that they haven’t even tried to help the kid. If so, sure, the kid should probably be taken from parents like that even at a normal weight. But I suspect, the first time the parents try to keep the kid from eating at a friend’s house, or spending his allowance at McDonalds, then it’d be take the kid away because they’re abusing him.
Yeah, there are people better off not having kids; there always have been. We still make it, though. It’s not the government’s job to try to perfect us. Governments that take on that job have a bad record of doing things far worse than what they aim to correct.
Making it even worse, the government has it all wrong about nutrition. The USDA recommendations for a healthy diet is all wrong.
Low fat is NOT good for you.
Saturated fats are NOT bad for you.
Dietary cholesterol will NOT raise serum cholesterol, and there still is not definite link between cholesterol and heart disease.
Statins do NO good, and may only harm.
A diet made of 50% carbs will lead to MORE heart disease, obesity and diabetes, even if those are all “whole grains”.
It’s all crap, based on flawed theory and is totally unsupported by actual science. The food pyramid started out as an advertising gimmick from a farmer’s food group. It was and never has been based on actual nutritional science. The USDA became involved when they sold their name and logo to be used in the advertising campaign. From there, somehow it became nutritional gospel.
I know this will come as a shock, but we have been LIED to by our government!
Made you look, didn’t they? There must be mare than one chapter on this technique in ‘Rules for Radicals.’
Had a quiet academic merely suggested that consideration of health and nutrition might be one factor in a determination of parental neglect, the whole nation would have stroked its collective chin and allowed as how there might be something to that. By going straight for the jugular, they’ve given up any hope of getting their way in the next several years, but have drawn a nice righteous line to which the faithful nay now hew. And tomorrow belongs to them.
Any further comparison of the psychopathology of the strategem would violate you-know-who’s Law. But you know.
The problem isn’t so much the quantity of food they are eating, it is the quality of the food. Eat the right food and you will only eat as much as is actually needed. It may sound strange, but the overweight kids are probably malnourished and not getting an adequate amount of the right food even as they obviously get too much food in total.
Their cells are screaming “feed me” and not getting what they need so they just keep screaming and they just keep getting the wrong crap — which is promptly stored as fat.
July 15th, 2011 at 10:13 am
If they don’t go beyond the level of the cases featured in the article, I can’t really argue with it. Notice they’re talking about 12 and 14 year-old kids that are 400 and 500+ pounds. Those really are cases of severe parental negligence, and possibly abuse.
Would anyone argue against a parent losing custody of a child for encouraging the child’s anorexia or bulimia (after repeated counseling/interventions), or for deliberately starving a child? This is basically the same thing, but on the opposite end of the spectrum.
There is, of course, the perennial problem involved in any government intervention – we simply can’t trust them to keep it limited to justified cases. Also, this being the MSM, I have to wonder if they’re intentionally not reporting something that would change my mind.
July 15th, 2011 at 10:42 am
This also presupposes that the kid’s weight is acceptable in some way to the parents, that they haven’t even tried to help the kid. If so, sure, the kid should probably be taken from parents like that even at a normal weight. But I suspect, the first time the parents try to keep the kid from eating at a friend’s house, or spending his allowance at McDonalds, then it’d be take the kid away because they’re abusing him.
Yeah, there are people better off not having kids; there always have been. We still make it, though. It’s not the government’s job to try to perfect us. Governments that take on that job have a bad record of doing things far worse than what they aim to correct.
July 15th, 2011 at 10:59 am
Oh yeah, send those kids STRAIGHT to “the government!” The Government will make everything better right away!
July 15th, 2011 at 11:40 am
Making it even worse, the government has it all wrong about nutrition. The USDA recommendations for a healthy diet is all wrong.
Low fat is NOT good for you.
Saturated fats are NOT bad for you.
Dietary cholesterol will NOT raise serum cholesterol, and there still is not definite link between cholesterol and heart disease.
Statins do NO good, and may only harm.
A diet made of 50% carbs will lead to MORE heart disease, obesity and diabetes, even if those are all “whole grains”.
It’s all crap, based on flawed theory and is totally unsupported by actual science. The food pyramid started out as an advertising gimmick from a farmer’s food group. It was and never has been based on actual nutritional science. The USDA became involved when they sold their name and logo to be used in the advertising campaign. From there, somehow it became nutritional gospel.
I know this will come as a shock, but we have been LIED to by our government!
July 15th, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Made you look, didn’t they? There must be mare than one chapter on this technique in ‘Rules for Radicals.’
Had a quiet academic merely suggested that consideration of health and nutrition might be one factor in a determination of parental neglect, the whole nation would have stroked its collective chin and allowed as how there might be something to that. By going straight for the jugular, they’ve given up any hope of getting their way in the next several years, but have drawn a nice righteous line to which the faithful nay now hew. And tomorrow belongs to them.
Any further comparison of the psychopathology of the strategem would violate you-know-who’s Law. But you know.
July 16th, 2011 at 1:52 am
Wonder if they’ll still “think of the children” when parents are shooting agents in the face for attempting kidnapping.
July 18th, 2011 at 7:09 pm
What LissaKay said.
The problem isn’t so much the quantity of food they are eating, it is the quality of the food. Eat the right food and you will only eat as much as is actually needed. It may sound strange, but the overweight kids are probably malnourished and not getting an adequate amount of the right food even as they obviously get too much food in total.
Their cells are screaming “feed me” and not getting what they need so they just keep screaming and they just keep getting the wrong crap — which is promptly stored as fat.