What makes them ‘illegal’?
In Tennessee, guns are not registered.
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July 25th, 2011 at 10:29 am
There’s something the MSM isn’t saying. I mean, they’re looking for cars with guns “in plain view”, and they’ve confiscated 20 so far?
What are the laws in TN regarding carrying firearms in cars, and specifically in the Nashville city limits?
July 25th, 2011 at 10:34 am
Cannot you carry a pistol in Tennesse in the vehicle as long as it is unloaded without a license?
So the cops peek in the window, see a pistol and then run a 27 which shows no license to carry and then somehow determine it is loaded???
July 25th, 2011 at 10:35 am
So the SWAT Team is surrounding empty cars, pointing their M4’s at a J-Frame laying on the seat in a locked car while the owner went into a “No Guns Allowed” Store? I can just see it now: The Wheelie levitates up into the Air, screams “You’ll Never Take Me ALive, Copper!”, and Blasts 50+ Nuns and Children with just 5 shots!
July 25th, 2011 at 10:47 am
The police were looking for visible, unattended guns. Leaving a gun alone, in plain sight, is as stupid as leaving a hundred dollar bill there.
The bit about “registration” is bogus, though. Why do cops always try to gild the lily in these matters?
July 25th, 2011 at 10:48 am
You can carry unloaded handguns and long guns in your vehicle. Doesn’t matter if they’re in plain sight or not.
This is probably the same unit that goes around putting bright yellow stickers on cars that have high value items in plain sight. They claim it’s to point out to drivers they shouldnt leave expensive items where people can see them, but the result is they are marking the cars for criminals.
July 25th, 2011 at 11:19 am
“These are illegal guns. People do not have permits, and they’re here for no legitimate purpose,” said one officer.”
Man with gun on his hip cavalierly states that someone else with a carry weapon has a gun for no legitimate purpose.
And what would be a legitimate purpose, officer?
July 25th, 2011 at 11:32 am
The must be Messican…
July 25th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
We no longer have Constitutional peace officers, but LEO’s looking to impose their will by force.
In Tennessee we have a specifically enumerated Constitutional RIGHT with the stated purpose of self-defense to keep AND CARRY arms, i.e., guns, weapons.
That’s in Article I, Section 26 of the Tennessee Constitution’s Declaration of Rights wherein the RIGHTS of the people are DECLARED!!
THAT is the LAW to which our police, politicians and other government EMPLOYEES swear an oath!!
All that being said, it is rather stupid and inviting to criminals, common and legalized, to leave a gun or any other valuable item unattended in plain view.
July 25th, 2011 at 1:26 pm
For those with “shall issue” TN HCP’s, loaded rifles and shotguns with unchambered rounds are legal to be carried in one’s vehicle: T.C.A. 39-17-1307(e)(1)
Rounds may be chambered in self-defense situations.
The law does not require that such a weapon be hidden from plain view, but it would be prudent to do so, even while the weapon is attended since LEO’s are often ignorant of the State Constitution and pursuant laws.
July 25th, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Sound like the metro boys. Having to dress up their “busts” to justify their budget…
July 25th, 2011 at 1:52 pm
Ron W.:
Actually, the Tenn. Constitution states only that the people have the right to keep and bear arms for “their common defense,” not for individual self-defense, unlike many other states. Furthermore, its language expressly affirms the legislature’s power to regulate the wearing of weapons.
Tennessee Constitution, Article I, sec. 26: “[T]he citizens of this State have a right to keep and to bear arms for their common defense; but the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime.”
The Second Amendment is a different matter. But you were the one who brought up the state constitution.
July 25th, 2011 at 2:54 pm
Of course the state constitutions can only expand on the rights granted by the Federal constitution and bill of rights, not restrict them. Given recent federal court rulings supporting an individual right, it probably doesn’t matter what the TN constitution says. Interesting, though, that the state constitution divides the right in half this way.
July 25th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Anon,
The RIGHT to keep and carry is a declared one, rights are for people. Governments only have “delegated powers” deriving from the people:
That all power is inherent in the people, and all free governments are founded on their authority, and instituted for their peace, safety, and happiness; for the advancement of those ends they have at all times, an unalienable and indefeasible right to alter, reform, or abolish the government in such manner as they may think proper. –Article I, Section 1
The Legislature only has the delegated power to legislate how you bear arms, i.e., the wearing, such as holstered concealed, etc. which must be with a view to prevent crime.
Websters Dictionary number one definition of “common” is: “belonging equally to, or shared by, everyone, all”
The right to keep and bear(carry) is a declared right belonging to all Tennesseans.
July 26th, 2011 at 12:45 am
““The citizens of this State have a right to keep and to bear arms for their common defense . . .the Legislature shall have power, by law, to regulate the wearing of arms with a view to prevent crime”
“Common” at the time of publication meant the defense of self and others, individually and/or in partnership with individuals. It did not and does not mean as a part of the National Guard, or the Obama Civilian Defense Force, as federal historical documents, including court precedents, makes clear to those who read things as they are written. The qualification is “with a view to prevent crime”. If I’m not a criminal and am not presently committing a crime, then this declaration in the state constitution expressly exempts me (and my gun(s)) from any regulation.
Of course, we all know that there are so many laws that each and every one of us could be deemed a criminal through lack of knowledge, criminal intent having been adjudged irrelevant by those with a stake in growing the “justice-legal-law enforcement” system.
Notwithstanding the fact that the supreme Court has ruled that a law MUST be properly published. Which most prosecutors assert means “spoken aloud – once – in the deepest darkest room inside the Lost Sea or Cumberland Caverns.
It is or should be apparent that the worst criminals are those inside the so-called justice system.
Just my opinion . . .