expectation of privacy
Dodging the question of whether the .gov has the authority to collect the geolocation information of American citizens for intelligence purposes
Tracking your movement via your phone.
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July 28th, 2011 at 1:56 pm
That’s fine, let them get dependent on that information, then leave your phone home when you’re out doing nefarious deeds. It will confuse them.
July 28th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
Yoo Hoo, Mister Gooberment Man! I’m right here in plain sight! Quit spending my Tax Dollars on Surveillance Electronics and get off your Lazy Butt and just follow me around. I’ll let you know when I’m doing something Illegal against you and yours.
July 28th, 2011 at 6:21 pm
“That’s fine, let them get dependent on that information, then leave your phone home when you’re out doing nefarious deeds. It will confuse them.”
Good idea.
Better yet, stuff it in between the seat panels of a taxicab or tape it to the bottom of a city bus seat and replace it a few days later (usually for free or for a negligible cost).
July 28th, 2011 at 8:27 pm
Eight years ago, I was catching shit from my friends for not owning a cellphone. I still don’t own one, and this is why. I use a pre-paid phone when I travel, because it’s handy for finding your friend’s new house in a far away state that’s back in the woods on a road you can’t see on Google Maps.
July 28th, 2011 at 8:37 pm
Hey, do the various el cheapo TracPhones that run on pre-paid minutes cards have GPS info in them?
As far as I know they don’t. And that’s the only kind of cell phone I use.
July 28th, 2011 at 9:57 pm
GPS isn’t the only way to track someone on a cell network. Prepaid phones aren’t untraceable.
July 28th, 2011 at 10:16 pm
Just watch for that mystical, magical, wonderful place, where your phone won’t work. Technology is good, when it works. According to the person that sold me a Tracphone, they use ATandT towers. I can’t prove that.
July 29th, 2011 at 12:11 am
So, let’s see if I understand: The government says that they can track me using my cell phone, and I have no expectation of privacy, but the cops say that I can’t record my interactions with them, because I am violating their right to privacy. Did I get that right?
July 29th, 2011 at 12:11 am
>Hey, do the various el cheapo TracPhones that run on pre-paid minutes cards have GPS info in them?
They can get pretty close by comparing the pings time to various cell towers, though it’s marginally less invasive.
As long as you just buy it with cash, buy the recharge cards with cash, pull the battery out while around your own home and don’t build up a record of actually regularly calling people you know you are probably in the clear. This means that for someone acting like a pre-9/11 hijacker the government will probably not be able to harvest any useful data. For the whole of the innocent average American though, once they aggregate the data from facial recognition software scraping your friend’s photos on Facebook and add in the data from your followers on Twitter, it will be like living in a fishbowl.
Remember, they hate us for our freedoms.
I, for one, welcome our new black-budget Total Information Awareness Overlords. I’d like to remind them that as a trusted blogger of the interwebs, I can be helpful in rounding up others to toil in the underground data mines.
July 29th, 2011 at 3:32 am
Like all great ideas, we should apply it to government workers first. Politicians and civil servants- mandate they carry GPS trackers anytime they are doing government business, track their cars, upload the data in real time to a public website.
July 29th, 2011 at 6:51 am
Markie Marxist sez: “Of course, we have the authority to collect the geolocation information of American citizens for intelligence purposes. Some people just don’t understand how a Marxist, totalitarian government is supposed to work. We can do anything we please to do, even if we’re not allowed to do so by law. We can always just say that it’s to fight terrorism and some useful idiot, no balls, federal judge will go along with it and let us do it anyway. We really can do anything we please to do.”
July 29th, 2011 at 8:42 am
“Remember, they hate us for our freedoms.” –Standard Mischief
So far, “they” is our own government officials and agents. They are the only ones who have reacted to the threat of terrorism by treating us all as terrorists (Patriot Act) and assaulting the Bill of Rights.
July 29th, 2011 at 8:42 am
Actually, the locating is indeed done from the towers, and it’s “close enough for government work”. This is how they can find you if you call 911.
July 29th, 2011 at 12:23 pm
My dumb-phone pay-as-you-go has none of that smarty-pants stuff. Facebook? Twitter? Not here, that belongs to Teh Youth Generation of which I’m not a part.