KOA Campgrounds Ban Firearms
Liston has the skinny. Seems to be a corporate policy.
15 Responses to “KOA Campgrounds Ban Firearms”
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October 18th, 2011 at 9:12 am
I would think in most states it wouldn’t matter as a RV is considered a home.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:45 am
So when does KOA get it’s own SWAT Team?
October 18th, 2011 at 10:36 am
Well, there’s a reason to not patronize KOA.
October 18th, 2011 at 11:34 am
Currently, I know for certain about Tellico Plains, as documented in my Examiner column. It is posted.
The email from KOA HQ indicates it is NOT a corporate policy, which is why I suggested in Examiner that you check by email before you go. That would provide written documentation of the individual KOA policy. I hope to have a followup in mid November.
October 18th, 2011 at 12:32 pm
Well wouldnt that be a shame. I was hoping to do some long distance riding, by way of free states, and camping along the way.
October 18th, 2011 at 1:19 pm
Note to Bryan S. Camping in National Parks and Forests with your sidearm is legal in many states (state law must be considered). See my Examiner article on National Forests: http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-knoxville/camping-with-the-three-bears-1
October 18th, 2011 at 5:53 pm
I just read the article. Something that is perfectly legal in a given location, yet goes against a corporate policy, is not, repeat NOT, “illegal” as the article purports. It is against company policy.
The most they could ask you to do, if they discover firearms in your possession, would be to ask you to leave, or face what charges? Trespassing, perhaps?
Policy is not law.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:14 pm
Note to Mikee – The most they can do, you say, is ask you to leave. If that is all they do, well and good. On the other hand, they may call the local gendarmes, who may prone you out, take your firearm, and put you in the back of the cruiser. You may eventually win, but do you want to have this battle?
On the other hand, I prefer to be proactive, and, 1) avoid if possible businesses that post, and 2) contact the businesses and attempt to get them to change their policy. We were successful in this with Mast General Store: http://www.examiner.com/gun-rights-in-knoxville/mast-general-store-does-tentative-about-face-no-guns-signs-come-down.
October 18th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
I think it depends on the campground. I stayed at a KOA in the mountains in Colorado this summer, and noticed that some of the staff looked like they were carrying. Of course being that we had elk prancing through between the campers at 5 am, and cougar tracks near the dog walking area, not much surprise that they would be armed.
October 18th, 2011 at 7:55 pm
As noted above, almost every state regards an RV as a domicile, not a vehicle, much like a trailer. That means that if it’s legal in the state, it’s legal on KOA campgrounds. All they can ask you to do is leave, and since you can literally go ANYWHERE, I would recommend that you do and give your money to a company that isn’t run by retards.
October 18th, 2011 at 9:19 pm
What Mikee said. If they ask you to leave, you leave, in good order. You are only “trespassing” if you remain after your are asked to leave, or if you come back after you left. Even still, it would be simple trespass, not Criminal Trespass.
When OR “shall issue” permits went in some 20+ years ago, some of the big Department stores tried to refuse entry to permitees. Initially, they tried to hold CHL licensees for the cops to eject them, but a short lawsuit in which Nordstrom’s rolled over on ended that tactic of the anti-gunners. Few in OR bother with the signs anymore.
October 18th, 2011 at 10:40 pm
Hopefully, somewhere out there is a pro-gun entrepreneur who’ll start a new company — let’s call it “Locked & Loaded Campgrounds of America” — and open them right across the road from KOAs.
October 19th, 2011 at 1:42 am
While I like to respect the wishes of proprietors whenever practical, I also think it none of their business what’s inside my pants since it has no bearing on my relationship in trade with them. So as long as it’s not unlawful, I just ignore their irrational signs. It’s not like I’m going to be whipping anything out, risking my neck, to save the cash in their drawers anyway.
October 19th, 2011 at 8:18 am
Have been a full time RV’er for many years.I have stayed in hundreds of campgrounds and it seems the majority have a NO FIREARMS policy, even in hunting country. I have never let this policy stop me and I carry almost all the time I am outside the cg. Inside the cg, they are available, but not carried, or openly displayed. I suspect many firearm enthusiasts and campers act the same way. I have never been bothered by cg management about it.
I suspect much of it is driven by the desire to avoid liability.
I have more respect for owners who have rules such as: “No open display or use of firearms is permitted.” I have seen such in a few cg’s.
October 19th, 2011 at 11:54 am
I will not be staying with these guy’s! Freedom was won with a Gun and bought with Blood! This is the land of freedom Not Russia!