“…Canada is not an extension of the United States.
It is an independent country and its laws should be respected…”
Some laws should explicitly *not* be respected. Without regard to which group of people assert them and without regard to which group of people they are applied.
Hell, I thought all bets were off when our own government started ignoring international law and shipped guns to the cartels. These Canadians are just whiners!
I consider self defense a fundamental human right, a logical extrapolation from the axiom of self ownership.
A Government is nothing more than a collection of people. No group of people can have any more or less rights than its individual members.
The people who make up the Government of the imaginary geographic delineation called Canada control tanks, fighter aircraft carries, artillery, and nuclear weapons.
Yet the people who call themselves Government claim that Canadians are not permitted to have handguns…
When I went to Japan our local company rep and I spent quite a lot of time together. He was amazed to learn that I owned both rifles and pistols, that I hunted and that despite this I was not some crazy redneck.
He spoke about his one visit to the US years before, when his host from our company took him out shooting for entertainment. He described the heavy recoil of the powerful Beretta he had shot, which almost caused the pistol to hit his face, and recalled is was….a 9mm.
I used all my training in international business relations and did not even giggle.
Back in the day, my employer sent me to a foreign land to do some stuff they wanted done. Upon my departure, it was explained to me that my rights as an American were not portable to other countries, and as an alien I had no rights there under their laws either. So, I went anyhow – the pay was good. But srsly, there are some places these days where I just wont go, some of them right here in the USA…
The people who make up the Government of the imaginary geographic delineation called Canada control tanks, fighter aircraft carries, artillery, and nuclear weapons.
@ATLien I don’t get the impression that you are actually interested in a meaningful discussion. You seem more interested in focusing on trivial points while ignoring the relevant ones.
I’m not sure why that is, but it’s not something I have time for.
Moral philosophy doesn’t seem be something you take seriously. Perhaps “Trivial Pursuit” is more your game?
Heh, I drove up to the Canadian border once to pick up a Quetico entry permit, with a Glock in the car. When I pulled up to the window to state my business, the officer asked me if I had any weapons in the car, to which I replied, ‘Yes’. He did a double-take and said, ‘What?’ Haha. I explained I was just there to pick up a Quetico permit, and although I suppose technically I was in violation of their law, they gave me a pass, after a lecture of course. All of the officers inside seemed very disturbed by me, and were very rude, other than the first guy I spoke to at the window. I think they are offended at pistol-packing Americans. I don’t understand that mentality…I’m not carrying a gun to hurt any innocent people. The only instance in which I would use a gun would be to kill a dangerous bad guy.
As a funny side note, none of the officers carried weapons. They had mace, but that was it. Perhaps they had some dusty revolvers locked up in a gun safe somewhere.
Customs and Border Guards in Canada are generally unarmed to prevent “incidents”. In most airports armed security is provided by the city the airport is located in.
Indeed if you cross by car and just drive right through the barrier they are under orders not to pursue, and don’t have the means, instead they are to pass your information along to the local police force.
As a Canadian emigrant telling such stories for years it’s very, very difficult for most folks to believe you. And that’s before we get to the no-free speech human rights tribunals or private health insurance being illegal.
No matter how bad people may think it is hear, this is the best place to be.
December 9th, 2011 at 10:22 am
I never knew that 5 pistols and an unloaded shotgun, amongst 4 people, constituted an arsenal.
December 9th, 2011 at 10:42 am
“…Canada is not an extension of the United States.
It is an independent country and its laws should be respected…”
Some laws should explicitly *not* be respected. Without regard to which group of people assert them and without regard to which group of people they are applied.
December 9th, 2011 at 10:53 am
Hell, I thought all bets were off when our own government started ignoring international law and shipped guns to the cartels. These Canadians are just whiners!
December 9th, 2011 at 11:21 am
I consider self defense a fundamental human right, a logical extrapolation from the axiom of self ownership.
A Government is nothing more than a collection of people. No group of people can have any more or less rights than its individual members.
The people who make up the Government of the imaginary geographic delineation called Canada control tanks, fighter aircraft carries, artillery, and nuclear weapons.
Yet the people who call themselves Government claim that Canadians are not permitted to have handguns…
By what right?
December 9th, 2011 at 11:28 am
By what right? War of 1812.
December 9th, 2011 at 12:16 pm
When I went to Japan our local company rep and I spent quite a lot of time together. He was amazed to learn that I owned both rifles and pistols, that I hunted and that despite this I was not some crazy redneck.
He spoke about his one visit to the US years before, when his host from our company took him out shooting for entertainment. He described the heavy recoil of the powerful Beretta he had shot, which almost caused the pistol to hit his face, and recalled is was….a 9mm.
I used all my training in international business relations and did not even giggle.
December 9th, 2011 at 1:38 pm
Back in the day, my employer sent me to a foreign land to do some stuff they wanted done. Upon my departure, it was explained to me that my rights as an American were not portable to other countries, and as an alien I had no rights there under their laws either. So, I went anyhow – the pay was good. But srsly, there are some places these days where I just wont go, some of them right here in the USA…
December 9th, 2011 at 2:37 pm
I suggest invading Canada and freeing the Canadians.
December 9th, 2011 at 3:30 pm
And remeber when you come back to the US, you need a customs form that proves you own the firearm before you left the USA or they will seize it.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:03 pm
Kristopher some of us Canadians wouldn’t mind that at all.
December 9th, 2011 at 4:33 pm
The people who make up the Government of the imaginary geographic delineation called Canada control tanks, fighter aircraft carries, artillery, and nuclear weapons.
Canadian aircraft carriers? Nuclear weapons? WTF?
December 9th, 2011 at 4:48 pm
You’re right, they decommissioned their carrier fleet and dismantled their nukes. they still control 29 warships. How is that relevant to the point.
People who command armies have no basis from which to tell other people they can’t have guns. It’s a morally inconsistent position.
@SPQR 1812 is not an answer.
December 9th, 2011 at 5:48 pm
Tell you what, Canada, when your citizens stop treating Florida as the southernmost province, I’ll stop treating you like an extension of the USA.
Is this really a can of worms y’all wanna open?
December 9th, 2011 at 6:59 pm
ow is that relevant to the point. First of all- in English we use question marks.
2nd, those 29 ships are tugboats and Icebreakers.
December 9th, 2011 at 7:25 pm
@ATLien I don’t get the impression that you are actually interested in a meaningful discussion. You seem more interested in focusing on trivial points while ignoring the relevant ones.
I’m not sure why that is, but it’s not something I have time for.
Moral philosophy doesn’t seem be something you take seriously. Perhaps “Trivial Pursuit” is more your game?
December 10th, 2011 at 11:19 am
Heh, I drove up to the Canadian border once to pick up a Quetico entry permit, with a Glock in the car. When I pulled up to the window to state my business, the officer asked me if I had any weapons in the car, to which I replied, ‘Yes’. He did a double-take and said, ‘What?’ Haha. I explained I was just there to pick up a Quetico permit, and although I suppose technically I was in violation of their law, they gave me a pass, after a lecture of course. All of the officers inside seemed very disturbed by me, and were very rude, other than the first guy I spoke to at the window. I think they are offended at pistol-packing Americans. I don’t understand that mentality…I’m not carrying a gun to hurt any innocent people. The only instance in which I would use a gun would be to kill a dangerous bad guy.
As a funny side note, none of the officers carried weapons. They had mace, but that was it. Perhaps they had some dusty revolvers locked up in a gun safe somewhere.
December 10th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
Customs and Border Guards in Canada are generally unarmed to prevent “incidents”. In most airports armed security is provided by the city the airport is located in.
Indeed if you cross by car and just drive right through the barrier they are under orders not to pursue, and don’t have the means, instead they are to pass your information along to the local police force.
As a Canadian emigrant telling such stories for years it’s very, very difficult for most folks to believe you. And that’s before we get to the no-free speech human rights tribunals or private health insurance being illegal.
No matter how bad people may think it is hear, this is the best place to be.
December 10th, 2011 at 6:55 pm
I think that these folks were a little underarmed for the trip to the North Country.
The other Chris.