Mac v. PC in the real world
So, I went to show my ten year old nephews a youtube video. Sat in front of their computer and hit the mouse. Mmm, a Mac I grumbled disapprovingly. One of my nephews looks at me and says You know what PC stands for? Piece of crap.
I laughed. Internet trolling in real life.
December 27th, 2011 at 4:26 pm
Smart Kid.
December 27th, 2011 at 4:35 pm
Oldie but goldie…
http://thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=macs_cant
December 27th, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Hmm. Kids are memebers of a cult.
December 27th, 2011 at 5:13 pm
“Yeah, well, your cult leader is dead.” should have been your response.
Ok, not really.
December 27th, 2011 at 6:45 pm
Know what Mac stands for kid? Mostly Artistic Crap. And I didn’t have to add an extra O.
Not to mention what Justin said.
Honestly Macs are very annoying to me, especially for someone who works on computers for a living and builds software, firmware, and designs hardware. My PC works, most of the time as a TA when someone had trouble with the tools they were trying to use it on a Mac. I became an engineer to build stuff, not fight tools on a finicky over priced platform that is purely a status symbol. [/rant]
December 27th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Macs really are fine computers, if that’s what you like, but mostly I find their closed architecture a bit irritating. I do quite a bit of graphic design, and I’m seeing fewer and fewer Macs out there in the industry because they aren’t enterprise friendly. Each platform has its quirks, and people will gravitate toward one or the other. Most of the time it doesn’t matter which you use.
More than anything, Mac enthusiasts tend to be more irritating about their choice than PC users. I could do without the haughty derision, especially when their chosen system doesn’t do anything that can’t be done on any other computer.
December 27th, 2011 at 9:52 pm
You’re welcome to go back to DOS and Word Perfect anytime you feel like it.
December 27th, 2011 at 10:10 pm
Geeze, again with the Mac bashing PC trolls. I work all day on both a Mac and a PC. Hardware wise Apple stuff is simply better. Not double+ price better, but better. OSes are six of one half a dozen of the other. Take your pick, red or white wine. doesn’t matter. Get over it people.
December 27th, 2011 at 10:24 pm
[snicker] yeah one of those *nix variants that aren’t, “Enterprise friendly”. Took me years to finally move over to Macs and then never looked back. I’ve owned at home and supported every version of Windows at the enterprise level (up to 45,000 desktops and 6000 servers). Without exception it’s always been the Windows boxes that cost the most in client access licensing, desktop license, frequency and duration of failure, application license cost, etc. The Macs and other *nix boxes (remember I’m talking desktop and back office) are almost uniformly install, config and walk away, maybe reboot them if you make a hardware change a few years down the road. That said though, I am liking the looks of Windows 7.
December 27th, 2011 at 10:26 pm
I too work on computers for a living. i have set up shop on the microsoft side mostly because the platform is open. that means i get to deal with more problems stemming from interoperability and compatibility, but it also means i can work work with what i want, not what apple dictates i must use. apple does use very high quality parts, but those parts are rigidly controlled, and heaven help you if you want to upgrade later, or want to do/use something that is not approved. i typically recommend apple only to people who have a limited ans defined use, but only if they understand that most of the price is going to be for the brand name. otherwise i tell them to get a pc and not to install to much crap on it.
December 27th, 2011 at 11:41 pm
Ubuntu Linux for me, thank you 🙂
December 28th, 2011 at 12:25 am
For a machine that does web-surfing, email, with a little writing and a spreadsheet or 2, what is wrong with Linux?
Firefox, Thunderbird, and the office suite comes at the low-low-discount-price of free. (Word processor, spreadsheet, “Excel-like” presentations – have never used it. Don’t need presentations since leaving corp. America. A facility for dealing with complex math equations (think back to your calculus class) and a paint-like graphics program, which I have also never used.)
Hard to beat free, fast software, even if it does come with some work involved. (Whole generations who don’t want to do any work.)
And the prices unless you build a Hackintosh are extreme. (Don’t know hackintosh? check Tekzilla for a tutorial.) I hate Mr Gates and Co, but whenever I do a cost comparison, even after springing for the antivirus, the 4-year cost of PC is still much less than the Mac, and if you strip out all the bloat-ware, they don’t run too bad. (Currently running on Windows 7. Getting ready to wipe the old PC, now that this one is stable and install Ubuntu. or something.
December 28th, 2011 at 3:08 am
Oh yeah!? Well Glocks suck!
December 28th, 2011 at 4:18 am
No, it’s not. Particularly if you buy a similarly priced PC (for instance, from Alienware or similar semi-custom builders) or if you build your own and select your own hardware (and have at least a little bit of a clue as to what you’re doing).
It would be quite easy for me to build a computer that, hardware wise, was better than any Mac you could buy and cost as much or less. I could even make it LOOK like a Mac; there are any number of aftermarket computer cases one can buy that emulates Mac tower cases, and their monitors will work with any computer that has the proper ports.
The only place Mac computers really shines is their software, and only then mostly because it’s running on a closed system with a limited number of hardware variations. That limits, but does not eliminate, the number of issues you can run into. (To test this, try and find a computer lab that consists of Mac’s; hard use will make Mac’s very crash prone; also, see this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F4bred83AKk).
Virus wise, Linux is just as good, and may be even more secure for power users. With (non-ME or Vista) Windows-based PC’s, decent antivirus software and a non-brain-dead user will prevent most malware issues.
So, what it really comes down to is preference.
December 28th, 2011 at 5:21 am
@ McThag
lol, so true. the computer and firearms worlds do have similar issues when it come to fan clubs. i would imagine other areas have the same thing as well, but i’m only familiar with the 2.
@rob
i agree, and that’s pretty much what i wanted to say, with the one caveat that i actually think mac and linux are less secure from a total-number-of-possible-exploits perspective than windows simply because windows has been taking fire for so long a lot of the easy exploits have been patched out. mac and linux have not been big targets for malware writers due to low adoption rates, but now that that is changing i am seeing more exploits written for those systems in the wild. point is no matter what your system you need a decent anti-malware suite. of course for power users viruses have never been a real threat anyway, it’s just the not tech people and the macs-don’t-get-viruses crowd that are vulnerable.
December 28th, 2011 at 5:51 am
“Seriously, what can your PC do that my MAC can’t?”
“Right click.”
Old bash.org quote 😀
December 28th, 2011 at 10:55 am
I liked WordPerfect and I like my Glock. Apple stuff is way over-priced, IMAO.
December 28th, 2011 at 3:40 pm
“Hardware wise Apple stuff is simply better.”
Heh, i guess you missed the fact that they stopped having Motorola build their chips, and went over to Intel built stuff… Now they are basically IBM clone hardware, just like everyone else. So no, the Hardware is not better, it is identical to the competition. Mac has always been a brand based upon providing an ‘experience’. As a hardware tech, I don’t want an ‘experience’ I want functionality, which means 7 for gaming/general enjoyment, Ubuntu for work.
And for a comparable price one could easily build a custom machine and install whatever OS they wished; Ubuntu is excellent, 7 actually works very well, and more than a few individuals will tell you that cost wise, if you want an apple OS just buy it and the box separately to save some $. Real geeks BUILD their computational engines.
Parroting the ‘just better’ line is pretty stock in trade for mac fanboys though.
December 28th, 2011 at 6:23 pm
1911!!
December 28th, 2011 at 6:27 pm
No they definitely prefer glocks