Am I correct in assuming that VA allows the OC of Long Guns, but not Handguns? If so, then, well, you do what’s Legal. And he may be under 21, so the Federal Laws restrict what he can Legally Carry. But if he can OC Pistols, then I think the same message will get out by using a Handgun. But hey, I really don’t know what the Law is down there.
I DO know that if I OC a Shotgun in a certain Library up here on the North Coast, a certain Librarian will be,… well, she’s still Dangerous, even though she stopped Blogging. ; )
Hmmm.. IMHO, it depends on who you are trying to impress – frightening the sheeple is often counter-productive, but getting them used to seeing armed people is probably a good thing.
It strikes me it would me more effective if LOTS of people were carrying long guns, instead of one or two..
I was at that rally and the Lobby day meetings. His carry caused NO problems. OC in Virginia for long guns has specific rules spelled out in the state code. OC of handguns is also allowed. It makes for a very non-stressful concealed carry environment. There were guns all over the capitol on Monday. The line for CHP, to get into the Assembly building, was MUCH more convenient, so even those NOT carrying but own a CCW card…used it.
One man was OC’ing an AR pistol. He was “fussed at”, apparently (I got this 3rd hand) by an OpenCarry.org person for “improperly carrying.” He was carrying under his left arm. I’ll leave it to others to determine that appropriateness of OC’ing an AR pistol and how to do so. I don’t care one way or the other as long as he’s safe.
He’d have to be pretty young, Federal law doesn’t affect handgun possession by anyone 18 or over.
Setting aside the Fed exceptions for hunting and target shooting and the like, typically if your state says you can carry handguns for the sole purpose of protection in public, you’re of an age (18) where the Feds are irrelevent.
I’m not aware of any states that allow handgun OC or CC just for protection, in public, when not being “outdoorsy”, under 18 anyway. ?
“One man was OC’ing an AR pistol. He was “fussed at”, apparently (I got this 3rd hand) by an OpenCarry.org person for “improperly carrying.” He was carrying under his left arm.”
At least they called it “an AR-15 rifle” insetad of the usuall “military type assault rifle with high-capacity bullet clip”. So there’s that. Someone’s learning.
Actually, federal law doesn’t affect possession of handguns or long guns at all. Federal law just covers the sale of those items. Possession is covered by state law. In VA, you can possess a handgun or “assault firearm” if you are 18 or older. An assault firearm is defined in VA Code 18.2-308.7, and it has no relation to the stuff in the assault weapon bans.
I’d swear there was a law requiring you to be 16 to possess a long gun. But I guess that got repealed at some point, because there’s nothing in Chapter 7 of Title 18.2 of the VA Code anymore.
January 18th, 2012 at 10:19 am
They are trying to legitimize it so its not such a marketing issue.
January 18th, 2012 at 11:23 am
It’s VA. The provisions for carry of ARs and related long guns is right in the VA Code (http://leg1.state.va.us/cgi-bin/legp504.exe?000+cod+18.2-287.4)
So we’ve already kinda won here.
January 18th, 2012 at 12:10 pm
Am I correct in assuming that VA allows the OC of Long Guns, but not Handguns? If so, then, well, you do what’s Legal. And he may be under 21, so the Federal Laws restrict what he can Legally Carry. But if he can OC Pistols, then I think the same message will get out by using a Handgun. But hey, I really don’t know what the Law is down there.
I DO know that if I OC a Shotgun in a certain Library up here on the North Coast, a certain Librarian will be,… well, she’s still Dangerous, even though she stopped Blogging. ; )
January 18th, 2012 at 12:11 pm
Hmmm.. IMHO, it depends on who you are trying to impress – frightening the sheeple is often counter-productive, but getting them used to seeing armed people is probably a good thing.
It strikes me it would me more effective if LOTS of people were carrying long guns, instead of one or two..
January 18th, 2012 at 1:16 pm
Too bad we can’t get EVERYONE to carry an AR at a pro gun rally….just once! Would make a serious visual!
January 18th, 2012 at 2:13 pm
I was at that rally and the Lobby day meetings. His carry caused NO problems. OC in Virginia for long guns has specific rules spelled out in the state code. OC of handguns is also allowed. It makes for a very non-stressful concealed carry environment. There were guns all over the capitol on Monday. The line for CHP, to get into the Assembly building, was MUCH more convenient, so even those NOT carrying but own a CCW card…used it.
One man was OC’ing an AR pistol. He was “fussed at”, apparently (I got this 3rd hand) by an OpenCarry.org person for “improperly carrying.” He was carrying under his left arm. I’ll leave it to others to determine that appropriateness of OC’ing an AR pistol and how to do so. I don’t care one way or the other as long as he’s safe.
January 18th, 2012 at 3:18 pm
Les,
He’d have to be pretty young, Federal law doesn’t affect handgun possession by anyone 18 or over.
Setting aside the Fed exceptions for hunting and target shooting and the like, typically if your state says you can carry handguns for the sole purpose of protection in public, you’re of an age (18) where the Feds are irrelevent.
I’m not aware of any states that allow handgun OC or CC just for protection, in public, when not being “outdoorsy”, under 18 anyway. ?
January 18th, 2012 at 3:23 pm
“One man was OC’ing an AR pistol. He was “fussed at”, apparently (I got this 3rd hand) by an OpenCarry.org person for “improperly carrying.” He was carrying under his left arm.”
Cargosquid,
As long as the tip wasn’t painted orange. =)
January 18th, 2012 at 5:57 pm
At least they called it “an AR-15 rifle” insetad of the usuall “military type assault rifle with high-capacity bullet clip”. So there’s that. Someone’s learning.
January 18th, 2012 at 11:54 pm
Actually, federal law doesn’t affect possession of handguns or long guns at all. Federal law just covers the sale of those items. Possession is covered by state law. In VA, you can possess a handgun or “assault firearm” if you are 18 or older. An assault firearm is defined in VA Code 18.2-308.7, and it has no relation to the stuff in the assault weapon bans.
I’d swear there was a law requiring you to be 16 to possess a long gun. But I guess that got repealed at some point, because there’s nothing in Chapter 7 of Title 18.2 of the VA Code anymore.
However, don’t you dare spit in the state of VA. Because that’s a Class 4 misdemeanor.
http://lis.virginia.gov/cgi-bin/legp604.exe?000+cod+18.2-322