Beat the system
NY teacher gets reprimanded for ogling 8th grade butts. You’d think that’d be something one would get fired over. But, no. It’s good to be a union member. They just put you in a rubber room and let you draw full salary and benefits. And you cannot be fired.
January 31st, 2012 at 1:47 pm
This isn’t a union issue, it is a constitutional issue. He was ACCCUSED of a crime by a government agency, not convicted. He has a constitutional right to due process. Since they cannot and did not prove that he did anything wrong, he cannot be punished for an accusation.
If merely being accused of something were enough to justify firing, every registered republican public employee would be fired every time a democrat was elected to office, through the simple expedient of making accusations.
January 31st, 2012 at 2:12 pm
But he’s been doing it for 10 years, and he was re-assigned under Rudy’s Admin. So, all this proves is that NYC Politicians refuse to take on the Unions, and the Taxpayer picks up the Tab.
January 31st, 2012 at 2:29 pm
You need due process to fire someone? News to me.
January 31st, 2012 at 2:31 pm
At least he looks and does not touch….
January 31st, 2012 at 3:25 pm
What an idiotic article. As Divemedic pointed out, he was accused, not convicted. But even if he WERE guilty of ogling, so the f*ck what? If he didn’t say anything, or touch anything, who give a shit? Can anyone here tell me you haven’t ogled a teenage girl’s ass at least once in your life and then promptly forgotten about it and moved on? Or, for that matter, an adult woman’s ass? You did? Well, then, you’re guilty of sexual harassment and deserve to be fired, too. But “Wait!” you cry. “I didn’t say anything derogatory, I never even touched her! All I did was look!”
We don’t know what he did—if anything—besides look, or even openly leer.
Armchair jurists and judges unite. Pathetic.
January 31st, 2012 at 4:09 pm
The real outrage is that a public school teacher makes $100k a year.
January 31st, 2012 at 7:07 pm
Ogling? What in hell is ogling? Somebody makes something visible but expects it not to be seen? Did he touch any of them? Make untoward comments? Seriously. The ones I have start at 9th grade, but some of them are real nice to look at. Would I touch one? No. Say anything inappropriate? Of course not. There had to be more going on there.
February 1st, 2012 at 7:14 am
@Uncle: In a decision known as Loudermill, the United States Supreme Court determined that under the Due Process Clause of the Fifth and Fourteenth Amendments, a public employee must be granted notice and an opportunity to be heard. The Court further found that employees cannot be terminated, except for cause. Under Loudermill, these employees have a right to notice and an opportunity to be heard in an administrative hearing before any decision is made regarding suspension or termination.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:21 am
Wow. Whenever I think the court can’t get dumber, I’m proven wrong.
February 1st, 2012 at 9:36 pm
I don’t think it is dumb. Think about this: It used to be that government employees were fired for purely political reasons, like supporting the current mayor’s opponent in the previous election. The court, by making the reasonable statement that the government can’t simply punish you without cause, has ensured that you are protected from government intrusion. I don’t think it is stupid to ask that your employer has proof of wrongdoing before they fire you.
February 1st, 2012 at 10:29 pm
Hmm. I put up a comment on this post here a while back, which seems to have disappeared. Was it Uncle, or Google, who made it evaporate?
Anyway, it was about athletic coaches in Junior High Schools and how it was generally understood among the kids that a lot of them were queer.
February 2nd, 2012 at 9:07 am
I don’t delete comments unless they’re spam.