Emily Miller gets her gun
Finally. I would be curious to know the total cost and how many trips to .gov offices were involved.
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February 8th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Well Done!
February 8th, 2012 at 3:12 pm
Now time to get the 2nd one…
February 8th, 2012 at 3:24 pm
She talks about cost and time spent on a video of her at some kind of hearing. Jack.
February 8th, 2012 at 3:41 pm
OJm she has it and checked (Feb 3) with the police, it is OK for her to take it home in a locked case with no ammunition (that has to be in a seperate locked case).
Next, how can she get it to a range for practice? I doubt DC offers reciprocity for VA or MD licenses, so do those states recognise a DC license? Are transport rules different?
I hope she knows she is not yet done…
February 8th, 2012 at 3:55 pm
YEH!!!! Another gun nut is born ….
Welcome to the tribe, Emily!
February 8th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
Ordinarily, I would suggest she move to the US (I’d have a space for her) but it’s ultimately better for her to contribute to bringing the US there. I applaud her persistence, and I hope she can show others the way.
February 8th, 2012 at 5:01 pm
Well, since VA doesn’t require a license at all, she can always go to a range there. As for transport rules, the general gist is “not readily accessible, unless it’s in plain sight.”* I expect that DC’s rules are much, much, much more stringent, so if she’s in compliance with those, then she should be fine in VA.
* In other words, as long as it’s not “concealed carry” by keeping it in an unlocked console or glove compartment. In the trunk is best. But, IANAL.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:23 pm
In DC the requirement is that the handgun must be transported unloaded in a locked case, separate from the ammunition. In VA, that’s well in excess of the requirements.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:35 pm
Even then the full cost is relative. She had to take time off of work to deal with the bureaucracy.
Depending on the job, you may have to burn vacation time, or even just go without pay. Both of which raise the cost.
I do love how she went from thinking things are reasonable to going, “Oh that’s bull !@#$”. It puts a smile on my face seeing her story. Not just because she perceived and got her weapon, but because it opened her eyes and in the process opened who knows how many more.
February 8th, 2012 at 6:46 pm
You can travel with a firearm in DC; it just has to be in a secure container unloaded.
February 8th, 2012 at 7:43 pm
In Virginia, a firearm in an unlocked glove compartment or console is not “concealed”.
February 9th, 2012 at 1:35 am
Good To See.
February 9th, 2012 at 2:11 am
Virginia is an open carry state.
She can just load it and put it on an open belt holster ( even while driving ) the second she crosses the Potomac.
February 9th, 2012 at 7:56 am
If you are a congressman or bureaucrat you can carry anywhere and anyhow you choose. Jim Webb proved that for folks who hadn’t been convinced when George Bush kept Saddam’s illegally imported Highpower in the Oval Office to show off. One set of rules for the bosses and another one for the little people.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:25 am
Emily could easily go shooting in Maryland – there is a place at the end of the Suitland Parkway called MSAR that is staffed by friendly folks and is quite the busy place on a weekend. There may be closer places in Virginia, depending on where she lives.
She can transport the gun to/from a range as otehrs have said, but I would correctly one post above that suggests you can have a firearm in your car in DC as long as it is locked up. That is not quite correct – you can only have a firearm in your car (locked up) when you are lawfully transporting it to/from approved places: gunsmiths, ranges, shooting events, etc.
I hate to be overly pedantic on that point, but I don’t want anyone here getting popped for possession because they thought it OK to cruise the capital with a gun case in the trunk. If you get caught, they will be without mercy on you.
A few point on Maryland law:
– Maryland requires no license to own a handgun or any firearm. Maryland requires registration of all machine guns annually.
– Transfers of handguns in Maryland are subject to a regulatory check and must be on an approved list – but the list is a speed-bump and nearly all new guns make the list once someone asks it to happen (unlike California).
– There are a few “banned” guns in Maryland, but most of them are relics. Nothing new has been added in many years.
– Some long guns are “regulated”, which means the state makes you do paperwork and wait ten days to pick it up. The regulated arms are those that were considered “assault rifles” back in the Clinton days. It has not been amended since, which leads to odd cases where some models of Bushmaster are regulated and others are not. Also, newer arms like the SCAR are not on the list and simple cash-n-carry.
– You may move to Maryland with handguns, rifles, shotguns and ARs and as long as they are not the aforementioned “banned” items (again: small list) then you need do nothing. Only transfers of handguns and some long guns are regulated in Maryland. But if you move here, you need not register anything that is not full-auto.
– Likewise, Maryland has no restriction on NFA items and the state police even have a fairly expedient system to give people CLEO signoff for their ATF paperwork.
– You will not get a carry permit in Maryland unless you are really special.
Maryland is not the best for gun owners, but it beats the hell out of NY, CA, MA and NJ by miles. I moved here from CA and considered it much, much nicer. I have my own range and several NFA toys and the local Sheriffs are cool.
But it ain’t Florida.
February 9th, 2012 at 10:30 am
@ mariner: Thanks, and you are correct. I was hedging my bets a little, because while I thought I remembered that it had been changed a couple of years ago, I didn’t have the references handy or time to look them up.
Slightly concerning to me is that the relevant part of the statute itself is a little vague. It says it has to be “secured” in a compartment but never actually defines whether secured means locked or not. If it ever went to court you would have to dig through the legislative history to see that they deliberately changed the word “locked” to “secured” (thus showing the intent was to not require that it be locked).
February 9th, 2012 at 4:19 pm
Getting a MD concealed carry permit is much easier if you make a 4 figure donation to a politician … Democrats only of course.