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We register guns with the feds? Any such registry is illegal. Even though they have a defacto registry by virtue of requiring folks to keep 4473s forever.
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February 23rd, 2012 at 10:17 am
Well, kinda. If you’re in the business of manufacturing firearms for sale, you are required to engrave them with a serial number and pay an excise tax on them. If you, as an individual, manufacture a firearm for your own personal use, and never sell it (or, possibly, transport it across state lines though I’m less certain about that one), then you may do so without paying said excise tax or putting a serial number on the firearm, so long as you are not a prohibited person, and are not manufacturing a restricted weapon (see U.S. v. Stewart, 2003).
I’m not certain whether the serial numbers of weapons manufactured are provided to the .gov when the excise tax is paid, but I wouldn’t be surprised. Is that “registering with the feds?”
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
4473s must be kept on file for 20 years. At that time they made be returned to BATFE…..or destroyed. I buy from a small rural dealer who’s been in business for a long time. Every January 1st he holds a “shred & burn” party.
If an FFL holder goes out of business he is required to send in his 4473s at that time.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:16 am
4473s must be kept on file for 20 years. At that time they may be returned to BATFE…..or destroyed. I buy from a small rural dealer who’s been in business for a long time. Every January 1st he holds a “shred & burn” party.
If an FFL holder goes out of business he is required to send in his 4473s at that time.
February 23rd, 2012 at 11:57 am
When a manufacturer (large or small) brings a new design to market and is unsure if it falls into an AOW classification, or possibly runs afoul of any other regulation, they send a sample to BATFE for an opinion and ruling. I suppose that could be considered “registration” of sorts as the Feds are now on notice of the firearm and undoubtedly keep records of the application. I recall hearing somewhere (making it absolute hearsay) that manufacturers who produce for interstate sale are required to provide run totals and serial number ranges for product produced to the feds. Anyone feel free to correct that presumption, but it appears the article was discussing whether providing an end user with an “almost but not quite” done receiver for them to complete as an “intra-state” personal firearm was a legal endrun on the federal regulation, not to suggest that person has any obligation to register the firearm with the feds.
February 23rd, 2012 at 7:06 pm
I don’t recall specifics of the particular firearm being filled in on the 4473, just “handgun” or “long gun”. The NICS check is just “Do you like me? Y/N” You’d have to try to cross reference these with other records. Are those other records required to be sent to big brother? I’m sure they’d be able to trace some percentage of them, but I know some of the ones I have have become lost in the wilderness.
February 23rd, 2012 at 8:33 pm
Typical of Farrago’s work, its partially plagiarized and partially wrong. I guess we can guess what’s original by what’s wrong.
February 27th, 2012 at 2:47 pm
That’s Farago with one “r”. Unless you’re being ironic. And please let me know what I’ve got wrong (ping guntruth@me.com or leave a comment under the post) so I can put it right.
This is an extremely tricky area of the law. And I work hard to make our information as accurate as possible, noting (as I did in this case), the possibility that YMMV.