Isolated incident
This video is all kinds of messed up. Cop bugs two guys videotaping, leads to handcuffing until another guy shows up.
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April 3rd, 2012 at 9:25 am
Are we reaching the point where people are going to applaud when some cops get the hell beat out of them? I’m as law and order as anyone, and I wouldn’t have any problem watching this cop get his teeth stomped in.
What as asshole, charging a couple of kids with a taser for whatever it is he thought the were doing. The kid without the camera did the right thing – stand off behind or on the cop’s flank so he blindside the cop if he really commits with taser.
April 3rd, 2012 at 10:39 am
I am shocked.
April 3rd, 2012 at 12:43 pm
This was added to the count last night after I saw it.
As much as the taser is a wonderful tool. I’m starting to hate it because cops seem to think that it’s perfectly fine to use it when it’s totally unnecessary. Personally I consider it damn near lethal force because for some people it can be. The whole point of the taser is you’re much more likely to survive it than being shot. It is not the first tool in your tool box for force though.
April 3rd, 2012 at 2:22 pm
I’m amazed by two things in this video; first how respectful the two black men are, addressing the cop as ‘Sir’ and not in a mocking tone. Second how activily hostile the cop is and how he seems to be trying to esclate the situation.
When I was a kid, cops seemed to be more laid back and worked on, you know, crimes.
April 3rd, 2012 at 2:49 pm
This cop really screwed up from a tactical, as well as a legal, standpoint. If those two were really hostile, the one who was on his flank could easily have produced a weapon and punched that cop’s ticket.
April 3rd, 2012 at 5:02 pm
This is just ridiculous. We need to get civil rights lawsuits going against police that don’t understand people’s rights. He can’t demand identification if they aren’t suspected of committing a crime (which they aren’t). Additionally he fabricates that they touched him when he is the one stirring up shit instead of doing his job. Guys like this give all police officers a bad name and I think the really good cops get their images tarnished by the union’s protecting goons like this.
April 3rd, 2012 at 8:16 pm
A thought exercise – and that’s all my comment is, a thought exercise – in just about every state the statutes permit the use of deadly force to protect life and safety; the phrases in Florida, for example, are “in fear for my life” and to “prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself… (FS Chapter 790.113)”
There is an exemption in the statute stipulating that the provision above is not applicable if the person against whom defensive force is used is a law enforcement officer.
That said, what’s the proper response when it is a law enforcement officer who is the attacker posing a lethal threat? I have a neighbor who has a pacemaker and our friend Marty in Houston could easily kill him with the Taser he seems so anxious to use in the video (note the laser dot on the ground while the cop is walking – he’s taken the slack out of the Taser’s trigger to turn the laser on)
Bram, above, mentions the possibility of a cop in that situation getting the hell beat out of him. I think the first step is a pretty substantial lawsuit against both the agency and the cop, and potentially, Walmart if Walmart is paying the cop as an off-duty officer to provide security. Problem is, despite the number of lawsuits won against cops and police agencies and the resultant publicity this stuff keeps happening. There are about 900,000 cops in the country and it’ll take too long to sue each one of them to get the message out.
I’m wondering when the first “smile when you see the flash” incident will occur when someone defends himself against an out of control cop.
April 4th, 2012 at 1:08 am
I don’t know why anyone is shocked by this. This kind of stuff happens all the time, it just doesn’t wind up on video. (Though now that everyone in America has a smart phone – it seems – maybe more of this will show up.)
Was it Brett Darrow who recorded a cop saying “I can make shit up and send you to jail.” Do you think that is the first time he said that? Do you think he never did it?
But the initial reaction is telling. Cops HATE video. They HATE being on video. Being on VIDEO means they can’t do whatever the hell they want and get away with whatever they want. It is why COPWATCH always trys to have multiple cameras – because the guy with the first camera will lose the footage. Sometimes the guy with the 2nd camera will loose the footage. It is another reason that live video streaming is so wonderful. You can have my phone because the video is already on YouTube!
Just suggest to a LEO that everything they do, from the time they clock to the time they clock out should be recorded, and witness the result. There is no reason not to record everything. There would never be any doubt. Was the shooting justified? Was the cop out of line? What really happened? Eye witness testimony has been shown to be next to worthless even when adrenalin isn’t in high gear. Or next to. So why not get a recording of everything? I wonder what the unions would say. (No I don’t wonder. Look how they fought car video.)
Illinois Gov Ryan, commuted all death-row sentences in Illinois (and got a lot of grief over it) because of an organized system of putting innocent men – mostly innocent black men – in prison and death row. Jon Burge and the Midnight Crew from Area 2. (Do a google search.) They made it necessary to have an anti-torture commission in Chicago – which as much as it pains me to say, is in the USA. Not one guy having a bad day. An organized, long-term practice of just grabbing black guys off the street and torturing them until they confessed to whatever crime need to be cleared off the desks.
Chicago PD’s Special Operation Section. LAPD and the Rampart scandal. New Orleans PD covering up murder after Katrina – and their ongoing problems, like not treating rape as a crime. It isn’t a loan cop having a bad day. It isn’t a few bad apples. It is an US vs THEM mentality – made worse by the war on (some) drugs, but it has really been there a long time.
April 4th, 2012 at 9:40 am
I guess Officer Anthony is so used to driving everything before him like he was Genghis Khan or something that it doesn’t even occur to him to think, “Hmm. If these guys wanted to assault me, could they?”
I try to avoid the “Yes, easily.” answer myself.