An insult to Is-llama
So, someone said OC sucks. And other people said “no you suck“. I thought we did this already.
Worst drama llama ever.
Remember, I do this to entertain me, not you.
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May 23rd, 2012 at 9:45 am
I’m cool with “Open Carry sucks and tactically you should surprise your attacker with your ninja reflexes, catching him totally of guard!” arguments.
I’m cool with “Open Carry scares the sheeple” arguments.
I’m even cool with “Openly Carrying a shotgun with the tip painted bright pink to a circus for crippled orphans is a bad idea” arguments.
My problem is using the Brady Tactics of smearing the whole by the actions of the few.
May 23rd, 2012 at 9:47 am
From time to time, I’ve had ten long arms for two pistols. The debate is “what works” in my arrogant opinion.
May 23rd, 2012 at 9:56 am
The problem with absolutes by “experts” is that they’re often utterly missing all the facts and most of the points of why people do so.
May 23rd, 2012 at 9:56 am
I can understand that carrying concealed is friendlier to the sheep, and can provide a tactical advantage. But sometimes, it’s 110°F outside, and I don’t feel like it.
It’s not like I’m going around trying to make a political statement. It’s just that I can, and I will, and it causes no harm or alarm down here in Arizona.
May 23rd, 2012 at 10:10 am
I love living in Virginia so much I have to point it out in every OC post everywhere.
When National Park carry went “legal” or local NPS guys, in an urban area, got a nice handout from their bosses talking about how OC without a permit was legal. Oh, and not just for pistols. Rifles too.
I just assume the “zomg oc scares everybody and if you do it we will become the UK” people either live in places that suck (*cough*CA*cough* or are doing something wrong.
May 23rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
I just go the minimalist approach.
“You’re against OC? So you think anybody who’s shirt gets blown up, or slips on some ice should go to jail for failing to conceal their gun?”
Because we’re ALL Open Carriers, just some of us plan for it, the rest do it accidentally.
May 23rd, 2012 at 10:49 am
I hate reruns.
May 23rd, 2012 at 11:02 am
The gunnie version of “The Mean Girls”.
May 23rd, 2012 at 11:11 am
Amen, Brother Uncle!
This is like an echo in an empty room. And strangely enough, you can change the words “OC” to “AR-15,” and bazinga! We go back in time with the same arguments! And if we want to fire up the ole Flux Capacitor for a few years further back, replace “OC” with “CCW” and — right again!!! — the same arguments leveled against concealed carry…divisiveness, scaring the great undefined “middle,” the need to work within the political system to accomplish our goals, thoughtful moderate gun owners versus the nut bag fringe…blah blah blah…
Rob and I have talked/argued this topic many times. I totally agree that CCW makes more “tactical” sense in an urban area and that if you hang a gun on you hip in full view, you ought to have a pretty good idea about how to hang onto it. OTOH, I fully support OC ( and I live in a long-time OC state, Colorado).
As far as California, I hate traveling outside the United States, even though they take dollars and speak a dialect similar to English…
Michael B
May 23rd, 2012 at 12:39 pm
Its not the OC carry gun you should be watching.. Its the CC carry that is the primary. The OC is the feint..
May 23rd, 2012 at 2:00 pm
Is it september 2011 again?…. sigh.
May 23rd, 2012 at 5:04 pm
Bleat! Urgle.
May 23rd, 2012 at 7:44 pm
Carry a gun.
May 24th, 2012 at 12:32 am
Ass-clownery? My definition of that is ACU-painted SUVs with black brightwork.
May 24th, 2012 at 12:34 pm
Pincus and Yeager are NOT honest brokers in this… OC does not match their agenda, so they put it down. And honestly, I’d never take a class from either one, too much ego and not enough expertise IMHO. Tom Givens is a MUCH better option.
May 25th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
Hey Michael Bane, how about giving us ALL the facts and the COMPLETE truth in gun reviews instead of reserving the negatives for ears deemed fit to hear them? Much as you laud Jeff Quinn, he’s never had a single negative comment about any firearm either that I have seen. You guys remain silent while manufacturers drop lemons on consumers, much as Pincus sells his brand of snake oil.
And then you have the nerve to put down short 1911’s?
May 26th, 2012 at 4:23 am
Old NFO, what is their agenda in this? I honestly can’t think why these two would make a video like this. They can be attention whores enough with Pincus’ crossfit rifle range stuff and Yeager threatening to break backs and “glocks are like fat chicks” schtick. I just can’t think why they would poop in the collective punch bowl.
The Drama Llama can be fun, but not that much fun…