What could possibly go wrong?
So much fail here, where to start: Chicago recruits CeaseFire group to help reduce crime.
So, they get $1M to hire 40 people to walk around and mediate disputes. To stop gun violence. Ok, then.
So much fail here, where to start: Chicago recruits CeaseFire group to help reduce crime.
So, they get $1M to hire 40 people to walk around and mediate disputes. To stop gun violence. Ok, then.
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June 27th, 2012 at 11:51 am
I’m not sure that’s fair, Unc. Maybe it’ll work and maybe it won’t, but sending people out to try and alter the behavior of individuals is going to be more successful than demonizing inanimate objects. Isn’t this what we constantly harp on?
Look at it this way-every dollar/hour they spend talking to individuals about specific conflicts is a dollar/hour their not spending to by legislators/lobbyists/paid op-eds. That’s a win for us. If they manage to defuse 30-40 conflicts resulting in 30-40 fewer homicides, that’s a win for everyone.
June 27th, 2012 at 12:28 pm
I forget the guy’s name, but he wrote a book about his experiences where the approached at risk gang member types in the city and got them to talk about their situations and confronted them…and it certainly had better results than gun control efforts.
He was interviewed on NPR, and Neil Conan repeated the expected “but what do you think about gun control, don’t we need more of that?” His response was classic.
“Eh, gun control–how’s that working for ya? Gimme a break”.
June 27th, 2012 at 1:06 pm
LC Scotty,
The subtext here is that CeaseFire Illinois can’t get enough funding by public donation and private anti-RKBA slush-funds (like Joyce Foundation) that they’ll have to accept a (likely) bogus “no-bid” contract [1] funded by Chicago taxpayers (and Illinois taxpayers, and USD taxpayers too.)
[1] It’s Chicago, what are the odds?
June 27th, 2012 at 1:19 pm
That’s only $25G’s per person? Where’s the real money?
June 27th, 2012 at 1:46 pm
DirtCrashr: 25k per year is about the going rate for a pro ward healer in Chicago.
The machine is just hiring more bodies is all.
June 27th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
And we are in to the territory that I arrived at when I looked at this program. It is a attempt by politicians to buy gang loyalty with government money.
June 27th, 2012 at 2:17 pm
I doubt the convicted-felon “community mediators” even see $12.5k before taxes. CeaseFire skims the rest.
(on my earlier comment: s/USD/USA)
June 27th, 2012 at 4:50 pm
However, even if it’s $12K, shouldn’t that be spent on Police Overtime catching Gangbangers and putting them in Jail? That way you get 2 for the Price of 1: One Gun AND One Thug off the Street.
June 28th, 2012 at 1:44 am
In Chicago, if you could get an extra in with a street gang, that would be valuable for any politician. The gangs literally interview prospective aldermen before they put their weight behind anyone. They’re important because they represent turn-key street organizations that can ring doorbells, influence local voters, dispense gifts, threats, etc.–all the stuff those ward heelers mentioned above used to get done with their own large groups of runners, but can’t anymore because they just don’t have that manpower anymore. The smartest gangs have stepped in to fill that void.
HOWEVER . . . I’d still rather see someone who has some credibility with gang “soldiers” making an attempt to convince them to do something different; at least admit that it’s possible to solve a problem without killing anybody, or that your life won’t end if you aren’t the baddest motherfucker in your tiny little world.
June 28th, 2012 at 9:12 am
$1 Mil averages out to be $25K per person. Either these people have a death or they are not in it for the money.
June 28th, 2012 at 10:14 am
You’re assuming that’s all the money they’re getting, Dan.