Some mention in the comment thread that Glock parts & accessories are cheap – what/how many accessories does a Glock require?
I like the idea of a 1911 transition pistol…but I’m keeping the Ed Brown.
I sell guns for a living. In one case we have the XD’s, GLOCKS, and M&P’s. I tell people “Ignore the Sigmas, they’re entry level guns. Whatever else in this case feels best in your hand, buy.” I also tend to mention that I personally carry an XD, my ever-indulgent wife has a GLOCK and one of my brothers has the M&P.
Let’s face it, unless things go really wrong none of us should ever be in circumstances that will put any of those guns (or any of the other pro level guns) to a serious stress test.
I have a bit of a hickup on “Well, it might shoot well, just try it out and see”. That’s why I don’t own any 4th gen Glocks. But it’s A-OKay for an M&P? Weird.
I don’t have any work arounds with my 3rd or 2nd gen Glocks. They shoot just fine, and I’d buy one sight unseen. Reading this about the M&P’s makes me not interested in a used one.
I keep thinking of getting a M&P in 9mm, then if I like it getting one in .45. But work arounds, barrel issues, trigger fixes, and THEN it’s a good gun? I don’t want to play with the damn thing to make it work, if I did I’d buy a Kimber.
Meh… I don’t care for the M&Ps because my NPOA grip on them has them pointing up and right (with any of the three backs). I don’t like to ‘work’ that hard to shoot a pistol. My Glock is a Gen 1, and other than one recoil spring breaking, it’s run reliably for about 30K rounds. I also have 1911s and I enjoy both! Can’t justify spending the $$ on an M&P!
I’d take my FN FNP-9mm over either the Glock or the M&P. The M&P is a nice handgun after you buy it, $550, and do a trigger kit, $160. The comparable Glock is $475 and the FNP-9 is $500, no trigger kits necessary. The stock M&P trigger is a joke and the only folks that “like” it are S and W fan boys, in my opinion.
It seems like everyone advocating is saying “it’s better than a glock once you replace the barrel and fix the trigger”.
WTH people, when you have to fix a brand new gun there are major issues with that gun even being sold.
Have an M&P .45, and work with Glock 17, personally my Sig’s and 1911’s are my favorite to shoot and I am very comfortable with all my firearms…except my issued Gen 3 G17…not a fan, slide bite, fat grip, crappy plastic sites, and shoddy recoil springs…just not a fan. That being said, I bought a agency turn in G17, to try to address my personal reservations with the gun…and,as it is with all things, a little work here and there on my part and the gun is a fantastic tool…both the m&p and the glock have trash triggers as far as I am concerned, for the G17 I bought I dropped in Skimmer Trigger and…well, it’s better. The m&p is a newer run of the gun and I’m not sold on what I want to throw in it. Both guns got new night sites, although those are being dumped for some 10–8’s in the very near future and I am shopping replacement frames or a resin fix for the glocks ergonomics(which I hate right now) the m&p is a excellent for grip, for me…notice I said for me. Stippling is getting added to the m&p as we speak and will to the glock when I decide on a frame. Practice has made the difference(as it almost always does) in my acceptance, and appreciation for both firearms and as far as cost is concerned, the m&p sells for cheaper than the glock here in my area so it’s a non issue to me. The fact is, fr the price of one of my Sig’s, or 1911’s, I can buy 2 glock’s or m&p’s, so to me it is, as it usually should be, a matter of personal preference…except for Steyr, I wouldn’t buy one of those…lol.
I own a Glock .40 a M&P .45 and a XD .40.I like all three for different reasons.If I had to put one on top I would go with the XD it just feels real good in my hand and shoots well.
In defense of the stock M&P, the trigger isn’t horrible, just that it is hard to run well at the bleeding edge of the speed end of the speed/accuracy bell curve. I shot mine through four school courses with the stock trigger, and never had an issue with it.
Those who grew up on the 1911 always have issues with triggers other than 1911, but that is because the 1911 trigger is that much better than everything else. π
July 12th, 2012 at 9:35 am
Get ready for the fanboi fun to start.
Why not just own both? I like each one for different reason. So I have 2 of each.
July 12th, 2012 at 11:24 am
Some mention in the comment thread that Glock parts & accessories are cheap – what/how many accessories does a Glock require?
I like the idea of a 1911 transition pistol…but I’m keeping the Ed Brown.
July 12th, 2012 at 11:41 am
I’ll assume you read this one, too: http://10-8performance.blogspot.com/2012/06/s-m-barrels.html
July 12th, 2012 at 12:32 pm
I sell guns for a living. In one case we have the XD’s, GLOCKS, and M&P’s. I tell people “Ignore the Sigmas, they’re entry level guns. Whatever else in this case feels best in your hand, buy.” I also tend to mention that I personally carry an XD, my ever-indulgent wife has a GLOCK and one of my brothers has the M&P.
Let’s face it, unless things go really wrong none of us should ever be in circumstances that will put any of those guns (or any of the other pro level guns) to a serious stress test.
July 12th, 2012 at 12:43 pm
I have a bit of a hickup on “Well, it might shoot well, just try it out and see”. That’s why I don’t own any 4th gen Glocks. But it’s A-OKay for an M&P? Weird.
I don’t have any work arounds with my 3rd or 2nd gen Glocks. They shoot just fine, and I’d buy one sight unseen. Reading this about the M&P’s makes me not interested in a used one.
I keep thinking of getting a M&P in 9mm, then if I like it getting one in .45. But work arounds, barrel issues, trigger fixes, and THEN it’s a good gun? I don’t want to play with the damn thing to make it work, if I did I’d buy a Kimber.
July 12th, 2012 at 12:44 pm
Or a 4th gen Glock 9mm!! I hit enter too soon.
July 12th, 2012 at 1:43 pm
This is kinda like saying a man only needs one pair of shoes. No boots, no sneakers and no flip-flops. Just one pair of shoes. Ever.
I don’t get the argument.
July 12th, 2012 at 1:53 pm
Jesus, Patrick. Don’t mention shoes.
July 12th, 2012 at 1:56 pm
I lol’d so much I pee’d a little.
July 12th, 2012 at 6:16 pm
@comatus: Why? My wife doesn’t read this blog…
π
July 12th, 2012 at 7:52 pm
Meh… I don’t care for the M&Ps because my NPOA grip on them has them pointing up and right (with any of the three backs). I don’t like to ‘work’ that hard to shoot a pistol. My Glock is a Gen 1, and other than one recoil spring breaking, it’s run reliably for about 30K rounds. I also have 1911s and I enjoy both! Can’t justify spending the $$ on an M&P!
July 12th, 2012 at 7:55 pm
Glock and MP SUCK!!!!!! Steyr rules.
July 12th, 2012 at 11:09 pm
Case closed. 1911 is (AHEM,IS) best the pistol. M9 can kiss my ass.
July 13th, 2012 at 10:01 am
Patrick,
“This is kinda like saying a man only needs one pair of shoes. No boots, no sneakers and no flip-flops.”
No man needs flip-flops.
July 13th, 2012 at 1:31 pm
I’d take my FN FNP-9mm over either the Glock or the M&P. The M&P is a nice handgun after you buy it, $550, and do a trigger kit, $160. The comparable Glock is $475 and the FNP-9 is $500, no trigger kits necessary. The stock M&P trigger is a joke and the only folks that “like” it are S and W fan boys, in my opinion.
July 13th, 2012 at 3:03 pm
Shoes? All I wear is flip-flops half the year, it’s hot and shoes are uncomfortable and stinky.
July 14th, 2012 at 3:31 pm
@Tam: Respectful, you live in Middle Earth. Those of us on the coasts prefer something to accommodate sand.
We’re still men. We’re just men with neoprene soles.
July 14th, 2012 at 6:28 pm
It seems like everyone advocating is saying “it’s better than a glock once you replace the barrel and fix the trigger”.
WTH people, when you have to fix a brand new gun there are major issues with that gun even being sold.
July 15th, 2012 at 5:36 pm
Have an M&P .45, and work with Glock 17, personally my Sig’s and 1911’s are my favorite to shoot and I am very comfortable with all my firearms…except my issued Gen 3 G17…not a fan, slide bite, fat grip, crappy plastic sites, and shoddy recoil springs…just not a fan. That being said, I bought a agency turn in G17, to try to address my personal reservations with the gun…and,as it is with all things, a little work here and there on my part and the gun is a fantastic tool…both the m&p and the glock have trash triggers as far as I am concerned, for the G17 I bought I dropped in Skimmer Trigger and…well, it’s better. The m&p is a newer run of the gun and I’m not sold on what I want to throw in it. Both guns got new night sites, although those are being dumped for some 10–8’s in the very near future and I am shopping replacement frames or a resin fix for the glocks ergonomics(which I hate right now) the m&p is a excellent for grip, for me…notice I said for me. Stippling is getting added to the m&p as we speak and will to the glock when I decide on a frame. Practice has made the difference(as it almost always does) in my acceptance, and appreciation for both firearms and as far as cost is concerned, the m&p sells for cheaper than the glock here in my area so it’s a non issue to me. The fact is, fr the price of one of my Sig’s, or 1911’s, I can buy 2 glock’s or m&p’s, so to me it is, as it usually should be, a matter of personal preference…except for Steyr, I wouldn’t buy one of those…lol.
July 16th, 2012 at 1:12 am
I own a Glock .40 a M&P .45 and a XD .40.I like all three for different reasons.If I had to put one on top I would go with the XD it just feels real good in my hand and shoots well.
July 16th, 2012 at 3:48 pm
In defense of the stock M&P, the trigger isn’t horrible, just that it is hard to run well at the bleeding edge of the speed end of the speed/accuracy bell curve. I shot mine through four school courses with the stock trigger, and never had an issue with it.
Those who grew up on the 1911 always have issues with triggers other than 1911, but that is because the 1911 trigger is that much better than everything else. π