MARSOC has been using 1911’s for decades; They’re simply coming to the end of what they can do with their stock of 1911’s, some of which date back at least as far as WWII.
From what I gather this is still just for MARSOC. One way or another, it was going to be a .45 1911. For everybody else in the Corps, it’s the Berreta M9.
Maybe – in the Gulf War, we had a Marine MP detachment bring in a group of Iraqi prisoners. A few had M16’s or shotguns, most just had .45’s. Out of earshot of the prisoners, they asked us if we had any .45 ammo.
They had not found any .45 ammo since arriving in Saudi Arabia and most of them were pointing empty pistols at the prisoners.
i had thought that the specs called for a 10 round mag. is this still the case or did something change? i think the H&K would have done well and been no more expensive than anything with Colt on the side.
More specifically, the requirement for the external hammer on the M1911 came from the cavalry, who wanted a rider to be able to cock it one-handed by rubbing the hammer against the saddle or his pants.
July 26th, 2012 at 9:29 am
Glocks or M&Ps won’t happen. the military won’t buy a general issue weapon that doesn’t have a manual safety.
July 26th, 2012 at 9:40 am
MARSOC has been using 1911’s for decades; They’re simply coming to the end of what they can do with their stock of 1911’s, some of which date back at least as far as WWII.
July 26th, 2012 at 9:52 am
Divemedic, FYI all M&Ps can be ordered with a 1911-style thumb safety. Its an option on all full-size and compact guns, and standard on the shield.
July 26th, 2012 at 10:00 am
What? How many non-1911s were used while earning medals of honor? You just can’t spout a conclusion without any evidence.
July 26th, 2012 at 11:01 am
True. I bought my M&Ps without a manual safety, but I forgot that you can get them with a manual safety.
July 26th, 2012 at 11:30 am
You have to admit that is a sweet gun.
July 26th, 2012 at 11:39 am
I would go with a rifle or shotgun.
July 26th, 2012 at 11:53 am
Army weapon handling doctrine requires an exposed hammer and a manual safety.
JMB put that external hammer on the 1911 because the Army demanded it.
July 26th, 2012 at 1:27 pm
From what I gather this is still just for MARSOC. One way or another, it was going to be a .45 1911. For everybody else in the Corps, it’s the Berreta M9.
July 26th, 2012 at 3:33 pm
Egad! It has a picatinny rail on it!
July 26th, 2012 at 4:27 pm
We are smiling.
July 26th, 2012 at 4:37 pm
Hmm. Wonder if those new Marine Corp Military Police Battalions that were announced earlier this week are going to get them also?
July 26th, 2012 at 5:43 pm
Maybe – in the Gulf War, we had a Marine MP detachment bring in a group of Iraqi prisoners. A few had M16’s or shotguns, most just had .45’s. Out of earshot of the prisoners, they asked us if we had any .45 ammo.
They had not found any .45 ammo since arriving in Saudi Arabia and most of them were pointing empty pistols at the prisoners.
July 26th, 2012 at 9:42 pm
i had thought that the specs called for a 10 round mag. is this still the case or did something change? i think the H&K would have done well and been no more expensive than anything with Colt on the side.
July 27th, 2012 at 9:30 pm
More specifically, the requirement for the external hammer on the M1911 came from the cavalry, who wanted a rider to be able to cock it one-handed by rubbing the hammer against the saddle or his pants.
July 28th, 2012 at 11:07 pm
Yer just tryin’ te start a squabble, ain’t ye?