“Police have not established a motive for the attempted break-in. “They were truly innocent victims,” said Rues. “Unlike other home invasion incidents where the victims are living lifestyles that attract criminals to target them, these particular individuals did not.””
“Police have not established a motive for the attempted rape. “They were truly innocent victims,” said Rues. “Unlike other rape incidents where the victims are living lifestyles that attract rapits to target them, these particular individuals did not.””
I know that I have noticed the home invasions here in Nashville are typically drug dealers getting robbed by other drug dealers or former customers. It’s a rarity that “rich white folks” get targeted for this kind of thing around here.
Gotta go with WizardPC (although I understand the “WTF, Over?” reactions of Azzy and Jack).
Upper middle class people have jobs and predictable schedules, plus are willing to call the police if you don’t get them all in the initial rush (like, the daughter or daughter’s boyfriend who was upstairs taking a leak). Unless you know they are highly unlkely to be armed, and you are confident you can lockdown everyone before someone gets a cell phone 911 off (for example, an after midnight home invasion, where you expect everyone to be asleep), better to do a straight up B&E when no one is home.
Drug dealers, you want to hit while they are home — because any dope, guns, and money they are leaving home while they are gone are likely well hidden, they AREN’T going to dial 911, and also because dead drug dealers don’t hunt you down in revenge.
Power cut to the Home, possible access gained in a “Gated Community” through a Fence, THREE Goblins rushing the Door, hmmm, doesn’t sound like there was a Plan, do you?
Power cut to the Home, possible access gained in a “Gated Community” through a Fence, THREE Goblins rushing the Door, hmmm, doesn’t sound like there was a Plan, do you?
And around here, meth heads bust into home in the middle of the day, planned or not, nice places or crappy places.
There is a distinction here. Home burglaries, which you are describing, typically occur during the day. They go up to the front door and knock. If there is no answer and no large-sounding bark, they break in through the back.
No one is expected to be home. No confrontation.
In a home invasion, the bad guys EXPECT folks to be home. If your target is of the street-pharma-rep type, he doesn’t clock in at a regular job and can’t be expected to leave his dealer samples and daily receipts laying about. Tactically, it’s best to take advantage of the darkness and take him at night. With friends. Who have guns.
Here’s my thing. And I still side with Les, Azz, and Wiz. Home invasion, burglary, what ever. That is beside the point. Someone, outside of the home, thought that there was something inside that they wanted. They were not going to ask for it. Castle doctrine wins. Hands down.
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:11 am
“Police have not established a motive for the attempted break-in. “They were truly innocent victims,” said Rues. “Unlike other home invasion incidents where the victims are living lifestyles that attract criminals to target them, these particular individuals did not.””
WTF?
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:13 am
And a minor change yeilds:
“Police have not established a motive for the attempted rape. “They were truly innocent victims,” said Rues. “Unlike other rape incidents where the victims are living lifestyles that attract rapits to target them, these particular individuals did not.””
October 2nd, 2012 at 9:53 am
Azzy, Jack:
I know that I have noticed the home invasions here in Nashville are typically drug dealers getting robbed by other drug dealers or former customers. It’s a rarity that “rich white folks” get targeted for this kind of thing around here.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:17 am
Gotta go with WizardPC (although I understand the “WTF, Over?” reactions of Azzy and Jack).
Upper middle class people have jobs and predictable schedules, plus are willing to call the police if you don’t get them all in the initial rush (like, the daughter or daughter’s boyfriend who was upstairs taking a leak). Unless you know they are highly unlkely to be armed, and you are confident you can lockdown everyone before someone gets a cell phone 911 off (for example, an after midnight home invasion, where you expect everyone to be asleep), better to do a straight up B&E when no one is home.
Drug dealers, you want to hit while they are home — because any dope, guns, and money they are leaving home while they are gone are likely well hidden, they AREN’T going to dial 911, and also because dead drug dealers don’t hunt you down in revenge.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:18 am
Power cut to the Home, possible access gained in a “Gated Community” through a Fence, THREE Goblins rushing the Door, hmmm, doesn’t sound like there was a Plan, do you?
October 2nd, 2012 at 12:06 pm
There is absolutely no evidence that the Pima County Sheriff’s office is operating in Miramar.
October 2nd, 2012 at 4:21 pm
And around here, meth heads bust into home in the middle of the day, planned or not, nice places or crappy places.
Im with Wizard on this, he made a perfect analogy there.
October 2nd, 2012 at 5:52 pm
There is a distinction here. Home burglaries, which you are describing, typically occur during the day. They go up to the front door and knock. If there is no answer and no large-sounding bark, they break in through the back.
No one is expected to be home. No confrontation.
In a home invasion, the bad guys EXPECT folks to be home. If your target is of the street-pharma-rep type, he doesn’t clock in at a regular job and can’t be expected to leave his dealer samples and daily receipts laying about. Tactically, it’s best to take advantage of the darkness and take him at night. With friends. Who have guns.
October 2nd, 2012 at 10:04 pm
Here’s my thing. And I still side with Les, Azz, and Wiz. Home invasion, burglary, what ever. That is beside the point. Someone, outside of the home, thought that there was something inside that they wanted. They were not going to ask for it. Castle doctrine wins. Hands down.