No gentlemen, the Forbes source article clearly states that 6 oz. of metal is embedded in the plastic to facilitate detection and compliance with that stupid law.
Can’t be traced. Can’t be regulated. Can’t be stopped. Congressmans response? “We’ll ban it”.
Thank you, Congressman, for proving the point of the exercise. Now, please loosen your necktie or buy a larger hat. Clearly something is reducing the blood flow to your alleged brain.
Only if it uses cased ammunition. If it uses seperate powder and ball, it isn’t a “firearm” under the Undetectable Firarms Act of 1988 (it has 10 year sunset provisions and was only renewed in 2003; currently in force as 18 USC 922(p) until December 2013, unless renewed).
Of course, for guns that might fall under this law, the detection threshhold is that it must be AT LEAST as detectable (both by x-ray and magnetometer) as the “Security Exemplar” (which is a gun shaped hunk of 17-4 PH steel weighing 3.7 oz).
Of course, sprinkle mettalic powder into your mix in sufficient quantity, and even a “plastic” gun firing off the shelf ammunition passes the 922(p) test.
I love the name choice, which should chill any mini-tyrant that knows his history. Forget durability; it only needs to be able to fire once. Successive shots come from whatever you have just “acquired”.
I assume he knew his history when he named it after the FP-45. When I first heard about the original Liberator, it was explained to me that it wasn’t really a gun you wanted to use, it was a gun you used to acquire a gun you’d want to use.
If you read Professor Kaku’s book (and you should) 50 years or so. But I think that once more and more circle beards join this effort we can shave a decade or two off of that.
Some people I know were talking about making .380 ish internal 9×19 ish exterior 3D printed cases.
It seems potentially interesting with cast lead bullets and various powders aren’t too hard to make.
Might be possible to have a .380 ish 3D printed cartridge that works in a 3D printed gun some time in the near future.
Biggest concern was rim strength, but there might be some unconventional solutions to that.
RE: Printed ammo, in keeping with the “use this to get the gun you WANT” idea, a printed case holding a few grains of propellant of any sort behind a projectile that could be anything from an unregistered fishing weight to a used ball from a bearing would not be hard.
It only has to work once.
We’re not talking about handing this down to a third generation like great-granpa’s 1911 from the Big War.
Why would you need a case? You can glue a Pyrodex pellet to the base of a cast lead bullet with Duco cement. Ream out a primer pocket, and you’ve got caseless ammo, with the only thing being left if in the barrel after the shot being the primer.
I would expect someone could come up with a “caseless” priming compound. In fact didn’t HK already do that with the G11, before reunification trashed Germany’s economy?
May 3rd, 2013 at 10:49 am
Likely illegal, too, under the “not detectable by a magnetometer” law.
May 3rd, 2013 at 11:17 am
@Phelps
Unless the nail firing pin is stainless or brass, I think it could be found.
May 3rd, 2013 at 11:28 am
“Wilson, a 25-year University of Texas law student”
He’s been in law school for 25 years without graduating, but can design a pistol made out of plastic?
Maybe Engineering would have been a better major…
May 3rd, 2013 at 11:43 am
No gentlemen, the Forbes source article clearly states that 6 oz. of metal is embedded in the plastic to facilitate detection and compliance with that stupid law.
May 3rd, 2013 at 11:46 am
Did they do anything to keep it form firing untraceable expanding cop killing armor piercing dum-dum tracer rounds too?
May 3rd, 2013 at 12:08 pm
Can’t stop the signal.
Can’t be traced. Can’t be regulated. Can’t be stopped. Congressmans response? “We’ll ban it”.
Thank you, Congressman, for proving the point of the exercise. Now, please loosen your necktie or buy a larger hat. Clearly something is reducing the blood flow to your alleged brain.
May 3rd, 2013 at 1:07 pm
Only if it uses cased ammunition. If it uses seperate powder and ball, it isn’t a “firearm” under the Undetectable Firarms Act of 1988 (it has 10 year sunset provisions and was only renewed in 2003; currently in force as 18 USC 922(p) until December 2013, unless renewed).
Of course, for guns that might fall under this law, the detection threshhold is that it must be AT LEAST as detectable (both by x-ray and magnetometer) as the “Security Exemplar” (which is a gun shaped hunk of 17-4 PH steel weighing 3.7 oz).
Of course, sprinkle mettalic powder into your mix in sufficient quantity, and even a “plastic” gun firing off the shelf ammunition passes the 922(p) test.
May 3rd, 2013 at 1:08 pm
“metallic”, not “mettalic”, damnit.
May 3rd, 2013 at 1:29 pm
I don’t own one of the commercial 3-D printers, but as soon as I get my hands on this file I am printing one on my little hobby-grade Printrbot.
MC
May 3rd, 2013 at 1:36 pm
Can’t afford the 3D printer, so I’m gonna print mine on 500 sheets of paper and glue them together.
Wish me luck…..
May 3rd, 2013 at 1:38 pm
I love the name choice, which should chill any mini-tyrant that knows his history. Forget durability; it only needs to be able to fire once. Successive shots come from whatever you have just “acquired”.
May 3rd, 2013 at 2:15 pm
I assume he knew his history when he named it after the FP-45. When I first heard about the original Liberator, it was explained to me that it wasn’t really a gun you wanted to use, it was a gun you used to acquire a gun you’d want to use.
May 3rd, 2013 at 2:20 pm
Is the barrel rifled?
Not that the distance its likely to be fired will make it a “tackdriver” by any means…
The person who reloads it is the person you give it to after “liberating” the gun you wanted.
May 3rd, 2013 at 2:45 pm
One mouse click just rendered moot thousand of pages of gun laws.
May 3rd, 2013 at 3:33 pm
When will they be 3D printing ammunition?
It’s darkly amusing to see this “death of gun control” persist in the face of all history.
May 3rd, 2013 at 4:05 pm
man, this looks one clever redesign from looking like Han Solo’s blaster.
May 3rd, 2013 at 8:42 pm
“When will they be 3D printing ammunition?”
If you read Professor Kaku’s book (and you should) 50 years or so. But I think that once more and more circle beards join this effort we can shave a decade or two off of that.
May 4th, 2013 at 12:10 am
Some people I know were talking about making .380 ish internal 9×19 ish exterior 3D printed cases.
It seems potentially interesting with cast lead bullets and various powders aren’t too hard to make.
Might be possible to have a .380 ish 3D printed cartridge that works in a 3D printed gun some time in the near future.
Biggest concern was rim strength, but there might be some unconventional solutions to that.
May 4th, 2013 at 10:50 am
RE: Printed ammo, in keeping with the “use this to get the gun you WANT” idea, a printed case holding a few grains of propellant of any sort behind a projectile that could be anything from an unregistered fishing weight to a used ball from a bearing would not be hard.
It only has to work once.
We’re not talking about handing this down to a third generation like great-granpa’s 1911 from the Big War.
MC
May 4th, 2013 at 5:19 pm
Trust this: If the Democrats get the House and Keep the Senate in the 2014 Elections, they won’t be Banning the Printed Gun.
They’ll go for the 3d Printers.
Just like the old Soviet Union Banned Personal Computers during the last days of the Evil Empire.
May 5th, 2013 at 4:42 pm
Why would you need a case? You can glue a Pyrodex pellet to the base of a cast lead bullet with Duco cement. Ream out a primer pocket, and you’ve got caseless ammo, with the only thing being left if in the barrel after the shot being the primer.
May 5th, 2013 at 7:23 pm
I would expect someone could come up with a “caseless” priming compound. In fact didn’t HK already do that with the G11, before reunification trashed Germany’s economy?