Sounds lethal to me
Walking away from unsafe training. And I hope you get a refund.
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June 3rd, 2013 at 9:31 pm
Thanks for the link
June 4th, 2013 at 7:28 am
I’m not sure that being muzzled is a big deal if the weapon is locked open. It is unloaded, and there is no possible way that it can be in any other state.
Rule one is there to ensure that a person is not shot by a gun that they THOUGHT was unloaded. In the case of a weapon that has the action locked open and is visibly empty, I just don’t see my panties getting all in a twist.
When you go to a busy gun store or a gun show, I’m willing to bet that you get muzzled a dozen times an hour.
June 4th, 2013 at 9:37 am
Either you believe in the four rules or you don’t. If you don’t, don’t teach them. Nothing is worse than an instructor who has two set of rules, one for himself and one for everybody else. Because surely on of his students will copy him not knowing what he’s doing. And that’s the whole point.
June 4th, 2013 at 10:56 am
At the counter of a gun store someone will get muzzled, it’s just the way it works. Which is why there is no ammo allowed near the guns and they’re checked repeatedly. To me it’s not a worry but we still try to keep it to a minimum.
At a range where there is ammo it’s an entirely different situation. Without ammo a gun is just a hunk of metal. When there’s ammo around it becomes a weapon and must be treated as such.
I’ve noticed that when I’m cleaning my guns they are, to me, just hunks of metal, but as soon as I touch a loaded magazine they are now weapons and the Rules kick in. When other people are around the Rules always kick in – it’s just polite, if nothing else.
June 4th, 2013 at 4:24 pm
Divemedic —
You mean you have NEVER seen someone lock the slide back, yet have a mag in the weapon? You’ve NEVER seen someone pull the slide back and a live round left in teh chamber? Both situations result in a gun that is a bump of the slide lock from being a gun fully ready to fire.
I’ve seen both. Hell, I’ve DONE both. Which is why the rule NEEDS to be so strictly enforced, ESPECIALLY in a range environment where you KNOW there is live ammo around.
I’ll admit a little more tolerance when a training barrel is inserted, or a honking big chamber block clearly visible by all. But, frankly, a bluegun, transparant squirt gun, or even a “finger gun” are all better training aids most of the time.
Hell, every few years, Marine Force Recon blows away one of their own in a force on force scenario where some dumbass ended up with live ammo chambered in a rifle for a Simunitions, blanks, or even “unloaded” drill. And it seems that EVERY SINGLE TIME, one of teh unit members uses the phrase, “We play by Big Boy Rules,” to justify slack, lazy, undisciplined, and dangerous disregard for basic safety.
Range safety rules exist BECAUSE EVERY SCREWS UP EVENTUALLY.