The infamous, “amendatory veto.” A complete crock of shit in which the governor can rewrite a bill to his satisfaction. Funny thing is, though, he was elected to GOVERN, not LEGISLATE. Big problem with the retards we elect in this state keeping that whole separation of powers thing straight. Anyway, the nice part is, when Gov Potato Head does this, it goes back to the General Assembly, where the bill’s sponsor’s in each chamber must do one of three things with it: 1) Ask for a vote of concession, in which the chamber agrees with the non-legislator’s legislation; B) Ask for a veto-override, in which the bill is made law without dumbass changes by a non-legislator; and iii) Do nothing, in which the bill dies.
The House sponsor, Brandon Phelps (D), has already filed for a veto-override which will happen in special session either Monday or Tuesday; the Senate President, John Cullerton (D), has spoken out against the stupid action of our gov. I think this will be a schadenfreudalicious smack-down of epic proportions.
Cargosquid, the problem with letting the bill die, resulting in what some here are calling “Court Carry” (as opposed to Constitutional Carry) is this: every unit of local government could write any gun ordinance they want. The potential scenario looks like this: say you live in Aurora and want to drive the 40 miles to the lakefront. You will drive through 13 different towns, and possibly 13 different laws. Aurora bans AW and mags over 10 rds; Naperville has no restrictions; Lisle has a Massachusetts-style approved registry; Downers Grove prohibits concealed carry and requires all guns to be transported unlocked in the trunk; Oak Brook allows concealed carry but has a Texas-style prohibition on open carry or momentary visibility; Hillside allows anything; Westchester has their own permit process; Maywood prohibits magazine fed firearms; Oak Park is a free-for-all; and now you’re in Chicago. What the hell were you thinking? Who wants to come here?!
Anyway, the point is, it would be nearly impossible to keep track of all the local laws, and you could be legal in one spot, cross the street into another town and now be committing a felony.
We need one state, one law. We have it with the bill that was passed. It ain’t great, but it ain’t impossible, either.
July 2nd, 2013 at 8:59 pm
The infamous, “amendatory veto.” A complete crock of shit in which the governor can rewrite a bill to his satisfaction. Funny thing is, though, he was elected to GOVERN, not LEGISLATE. Big problem with the retards we elect in this state keeping that whole separation of powers thing straight. Anyway, the nice part is, when Gov Potato Head does this, it goes back to the General Assembly, where the bill’s sponsor’s in each chamber must do one of three things with it: 1) Ask for a vote of concession, in which the chamber agrees with the non-legislator’s legislation; B) Ask for a veto-override, in which the bill is made law without dumbass changes by a non-legislator; and iii) Do nothing, in which the bill dies.
The House sponsor, Brandon Phelps (D), has already filed for a veto-override which will happen in special session either Monday or Tuesday; the Senate President, John Cullerton (D), has spoken out against the stupid action of our gov. I think this will be a schadenfreudalicious smack-down of epic proportions.
Or I could be completely wrong.
July 2nd, 2013 at 9:52 pm
Might could be an override. Madigan cannot possibly be happy that Daley is trying to steal the governorship from his little girl.
July 3rd, 2013 at 12:02 am
Hmmmm….why not just kill the bill? Delay it past the deadline, thus removing ALL anti carry laws.
July 3rd, 2013 at 9:18 am
Cargo, one reason is that it wouldn’t remove all anti-carry laws.
Without a state law with carry pre-emption Cook County or Chicago itself could just pass their own NYC style carry law.
Same for any other muniticpality, especially those that qualify under home rule.
July 3rd, 2013 at 9:26 am
Cargosquid, the problem with letting the bill die, resulting in what some here are calling “Court Carry” (as opposed to Constitutional Carry) is this: every unit of local government could write any gun ordinance they want. The potential scenario looks like this: say you live in Aurora and want to drive the 40 miles to the lakefront. You will drive through 13 different towns, and possibly 13 different laws. Aurora bans AW and mags over 10 rds; Naperville has no restrictions; Lisle has a Massachusetts-style approved registry; Downers Grove prohibits concealed carry and requires all guns to be transported unlocked in the trunk; Oak Brook allows concealed carry but has a Texas-style prohibition on open carry or momentary visibility; Hillside allows anything; Westchester has their own permit process; Maywood prohibits magazine fed firearms; Oak Park is a free-for-all; and now you’re in Chicago. What the hell were you thinking? Who wants to come here?!
Anyway, the point is, it would be nearly impossible to keep track of all the local laws, and you could be legal in one spot, cross the street into another town and now be committing a felony.
We need one state, one law. We have it with the bill that was passed. It ain’t great, but it ain’t impossible, either.