Give them what they seek: review of Florida SYG demonstrated it was used by minority defendants successfully at a higher ratio than it was used by non-minority defendants.
Maybe they SHOULD change the Law. Instead of calling it “Stand Your Ground”, they should call it the “You CAN shoot back against Racist Crackers who are trying to Kill YOU” Law instead.
While obviously bubblehead les is a troll, I will respond to and echo what mikee said. Minorities (african american folks to be more precise) have used it successfully 33% of the cases while they make up only approximately 17% of the population in Florida. And most of those cases are against white (real white, not the imaginary george zimmerman white) aggressors.
Until these 17 ill-indoctrinated and easily manipulated Tennessee Black Caucus members awaken and realize who has been totally responsible for their insignificance and oppression over the last five decades, their public opinions and wants will always be scorned, heavily critiqued, or just plain laughed at.
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
In addition to wanting to REQUIRE BY LAW that the people must flee from a criminal attacker, they also support more citizen disarmament, just as was done to their ancestors:
“Notwithstanding the provision in the Constitution of the United States, that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, the black man has never had the right to either keep or bear arms.”– Frederick Douglas, speech to the American Anti-Slavery Society, May 10, 1865
I love how the one guy basically compared minorities who are all in love with the liberal media and government taking care of them are the new “house slaves” of this country. LoL. I also recently watched a video that showed how “stand your ground” really doesn’t come into play in this case at all. It’s not a crime to follow somebody you think might be up to no good nor is the advice of a dispatch agent legally binding. Legally, the dispatch isn’t allowed to give binding orders for liability purposes. Treyvon literally threw the first punch and attacked Zimmerman then proceeded to beat the crap out of him and cause him to fear for his life. If stand your ground was to even come into play it would’ve had to be because Treyvon was the one still alive since he was the only one who decided to “stand his ground” and fight. Zimmerman had no where to go once the altercation started Treyvon did and could’ve run away ,yet, he chose differently.
“No child should ever have to be afraid to walk peacefully down the sidewalk without being attacked . . . ”
Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman by breaking his nose and beating his head against concrete. How can one reason with people who willfully reverse reality and sympathize with the perpetrator of the crime? It’s simply not possible.
Someone comes to you in a place where you can lawfully be and threatens you with imminent unlawful force. You must try to retreat or suffer penalty of law for any defense you put forward to stop that unlawful force. that is, they are pro-bully.
Even if you grant Martin that first strike, the use of deadly force in self defense arose because he continued his attack on Zimmerman after Zimmerman was no longer any threat of unlawful force. He continued through 40 seconds of Zimmerman screaming for help. He continued even after a resident came outside and yelled he was calling the police.
Of course, Zimmerman didn’t know the police would arrive within 2 minutes or he might have not discharged his firearm but rather tried to hold out for their arrival.
But the lesson here is that if you use your firearm to save our life or the lives of others. Even if you show restraint and get in serious extremis before you use your weapon for self defense. Nothing can save you from a crusading prosecutor, especially if they can gain political power from your prosecution.
July 19th, 2013 at 8:59 am
Give them what they seek: review of Florida SYG demonstrated it was used by minority defendants successfully at a higher ratio than it was used by non-minority defendants.
July 19th, 2013 at 9:29 am
Maybe they SHOULD change the Law. Instead of calling it “Stand Your Ground”, they should call it the “You CAN shoot back against Racist Crackers who are trying to Kill YOU” Law instead.
July 19th, 2013 at 1:33 pm
While obviously bubblehead les is a troll, I will respond to and echo what mikee said. Minorities (african american folks to be more precise) have used it successfully 33% of the cases while they make up only approximately 17% of the population in Florida. And most of those cases are against white (real white, not the imaginary george zimmerman white) aggressors.
July 19th, 2013 at 1:38 pm
Until these 17 ill-indoctrinated and easily manipulated Tennessee Black Caucus members awaken and realize who has been totally responsible for their insignificance and oppression over the last five decades, their public opinions and wants will always be scorned, heavily critiqued, or just plain laughed at.
“If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, go home from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.”
– Samuel Adams
I’m with Sam on this one…
July 19th, 2013 at 2:13 pm
In addition to wanting to REQUIRE BY LAW that the people must flee from a criminal attacker, they also support more citizen disarmament, just as was done to their ancestors:
“Notwithstanding the provision in the Constitution of the United States, that the right to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, the black man has never had the right to either keep or bear arms.”– Frederick Douglas, speech to the American Anti-Slavery Society, May 10, 1865
July 19th, 2013 at 3:51 pm
I love how the one guy basically compared minorities who are all in love with the liberal media and government taking care of them are the new “house slaves” of this country. LoL. I also recently watched a video that showed how “stand your ground” really doesn’t come into play in this case at all. It’s not a crime to follow somebody you think might be up to no good nor is the advice of a dispatch agent legally binding. Legally, the dispatch isn’t allowed to give binding orders for liability purposes. Treyvon literally threw the first punch and attacked Zimmerman then proceeded to beat the crap out of him and cause him to fear for his life. If stand your ground was to even come into play it would’ve had to be because Treyvon was the one still alive since he was the only one who decided to “stand his ground” and fight. Zimmerman had no where to go once the altercation started Treyvon did and could’ve run away ,yet, he chose differently.
July 19th, 2013 at 9:59 pm
“No child should ever have to be afraid to walk peacefully down the sidewalk without being attacked . . . ”
Trayvon Martin attacked George Zimmerman by breaking his nose and beating his head against concrete. How can one reason with people who willfully reverse reality and sympathize with the perpetrator of the crime? It’s simply not possible.
July 20th, 2013 at 12:26 am
So they are pro-bully?
Someone comes to you in a place where you can lawfully be and threatens you with imminent unlawful force. You must try to retreat or suffer penalty of law for any defense you put forward to stop that unlawful force. that is, they are pro-bully.
July 20th, 2013 at 12:37 am
Chas,
Even if you grant Martin that first strike, the use of deadly force in self defense arose because he continued his attack on Zimmerman after Zimmerman was no longer any threat of unlawful force. He continued through 40 seconds of Zimmerman screaming for help. He continued even after a resident came outside and yelled he was calling the police.
Of course, Zimmerman didn’t know the police would arrive within 2 minutes or he might have not discharged his firearm but rather tried to hold out for their arrival.
But the lesson here is that if you use your firearm to save our life or the lives of others. Even if you show restraint and get in serious extremis before you use your weapon for self defense. Nothing can save you from a crusading prosecutor, especially if they can gain political power from your prosecution.
July 22nd, 2013 at 3:37 am
Self-defense as an affirmative defense requires the -victim- of the assault to prove they weren’t “asking for it.”
“Duty to retreat” doubles down by requiring the same -victim- to also prove they “couldn’t get away.”