Bruce, it’s not that, exactly. It’s that WA state law explicitly preempts municipalities and other subdivisions from regulating firearms more strictly than state law, not from regulating weapons or tools.
Meanwhile, here’s the line from the article that really has me scratching my head:
“Marilynne Gardner, the chief financial officer, wrote to Fithian, the head of security: “Are you drafting an active shooter response plan?””
Kirk, I noticed that, too — they suddenly need a “active shooter response plan” because they now allow law-abiding citizens to carry in the library? They also claim they are somehow uniquely sensitive to the presence of guns – has there EVER been a shooting (or stabbing, for that matter) at a public library in Seattle?
The amount of butt-hurt on display in that article is indeed heartwarming..:-) But I also suspect we’re going to see an outright assault on that State law soon.
“I hate it, I’m confident that no one in the library wanted to do it,” [City Attorney] Holmes said. “This is, I think, an unnecessary invasion into municipal right of self-determination.”
Municipal governmental entities have no rights, they have limited authority granted them by law as enacted by the legislative representatives of the citizenry.
Nor do the governmental entities have self determination, they have authorized activities they are allowed, again by the citizens acting through legislative representation, to perform on behalf of their citizenry.
Authority rests in the citizen, who alone have inherent individual rights, and is delegated to such governmental bodies as the citizens see fit.
If the CITY ATTORNEY cannot tell the difference between rights and delegated authorities, which is pretty much the basis of the entire organization of government in the US, no wonder they had such stupid and illegal policies in place.
“The amount of butt-hurt on display in that article is indeed heartwarming”
It’s a distraction. They were caught breaking the law. They know they were breaking the law because they’ve complained about the law they were breaking. Do you think they’d allow the conversation to be about their law breaking, without trying to change the subject?
Where are the arrests? I’d like to know.
We’re dealing with rebels and criminals, and we talk about their feelings?
The librarian went on to say she was most worried the policy would result in gun-carrying patrons “feeling a need to step in during our more heightened patron conflicts, potentially escalating already violent situations dramatically and tragically.”
Are these “heightened patron conflicts” are a real big problem at libraries across the country, or is this just a Seattle problem?
January 7th, 2014 at 9:20 pm
From the article, apparently knives aren’t considered arms. WTF?
January 8th, 2014 at 4:39 am
Bruce, it’s not that, exactly. It’s that WA state law explicitly preempts municipalities and other subdivisions from regulating firearms more strictly than state law, not from regulating weapons or tools.
Meanwhile, here’s the line from the article that really has me scratching my head:
“Marilynne Gardner, the chief financial officer, wrote to Fithian, the head of security: “Are you drafting an active shooter response plan?””
Wait, you mean you didn’t have one already???
January 8th, 2014 at 10:33 am
Kirk, I noticed that, too — they suddenly need a “active shooter response plan” because they now allow law-abiding citizens to carry in the library? They also claim they are somehow uniquely sensitive to the presence of guns – has there EVER been a shooting (or stabbing, for that matter) at a public library in Seattle?
The amount of butt-hurt on display in that article is indeed heartwarming..:-) But I also suspect we’re going to see an outright assault on that State law soon.
January 8th, 2014 at 11:26 am
“I hate it, I’m confident that no one in the library wanted to do it,” [City Attorney] Holmes said. “This is, I think, an unnecessary invasion into municipal right of self-determination.”
Municipal governmental entities have no rights, they have limited authority granted them by law as enacted by the legislative representatives of the citizenry.
Nor do the governmental entities have self determination, they have authorized activities they are allowed, again by the citizens acting through legislative representation, to perform on behalf of their citizenry.
Authority rests in the citizen, who alone have inherent individual rights, and is delegated to such governmental bodies as the citizens see fit.
If the CITY ATTORNEY cannot tell the difference between rights and delegated authorities, which is pretty much the basis of the entire organization of government in the US, no wonder they had such stupid and illegal policies in place.
January 8th, 2014 at 1:37 pm
“The amount of butt-hurt on display in that article is indeed heartwarming”
It’s a distraction. They were caught breaking the law. They know they were breaking the law because they’ve complained about the law they were breaking. Do you think they’d allow the conversation to be about their law breaking, without trying to change the subject?
Where are the arrests? I’d like to know.
We’re dealing with rebels and criminals, and we talk about their feelings?
January 8th, 2014 at 3:54 pm
The librarian went on to say she was most worried the policy would result in gun-carrying patrons “feeling a need to step in during our more heightened patron conflicts, potentially escalating already violent situations dramatically and tragically.”
Are these “heightened patron conflicts” are a real big problem at libraries across the country, or is this just a Seattle problem?
January 8th, 2014 at 5:27 pm
Dont know about you guys, but Im tired of these nutbags screaming about how we are murderers and a danger to everyone.
Their ignorance and emotional jumps to craft laws are where we as a people are injured the most.
January 8th, 2014 at 6:34 pm
Hank (#6): come on, you know how heated those philosophical arguments can get!