My two cents worth: Teen violence rates decline whenever there is a big circus in a town – in general the police are all at the convention center directing traffic, and teen violence that does take place between teens gets reported less and investigated less. Plus, the teens have the opportunity to buy drugs and get stoned at their friends’ houses with less chance of a police officer interfering, because again the perception is that the officers are all at the convention center.
Mikee: I’d be curious to hear about similarly-sized events in Indianapolis — or, at any rate, events that used a similarly-sized police presence — and find out if the drop in teen violence was comparable.
Some of us, of course, would love to attribute this, at least in part, to the large number of known gun enthusiasts wandering around. Okay, fine. Is there any data in re other recent Indianapolis conventions?
Carrying the correlation further, one might infer that the exponential growth of concealed carry by good Joes and Janes will have a similarly settling effect on would-be perps in their midst. Probably already is. Yes, we are winning in more ways than one.
“Teen violence rates decline whenever there is a big circus in a town –”
Ummm, no, you are very wrong.
I suggest you Google Indiana Black Expo and see the stories about the teen violence in the face of most of the Indianapolis police department being on the same blocks as where the gun battles taken place.
This is Indiana Black Expo 2010. Half (750) of the Indianapolis Metro Police Department is downtown Indianapolis for IBE2010. This happened despite wall to wall cops: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s4f_ICCUdA
Nothing, absolutely nothing, happened at the NRA convention in Indianapolis–not Public Intox, not a single fight, no gunfire, no thefts, nothing. The usual suspects CAN read despite the non-effort by Indianapolis Public Schools. They saw the NRA banners and stayed away.
May 2nd, 2014 at 9:34 pm
But teens shouldn’t have to fear people on the street might be armed!!!!!eleventy!!!!!’
*clutches pearls and swoons*
May 2nd, 2014 at 9:44 pm
Well, an Indy PD Sgt did tell me they hadn’t seen ‘any’ of the usual suspects around all weekend… 🙂
May 2nd, 2014 at 10:33 pm
And comments on the story are disabled. Quelle surprise!
May 3rd, 2014 at 2:32 pm
My two cents worth: Teen violence rates decline whenever there is a big circus in a town – in general the police are all at the convention center directing traffic, and teen violence that does take place between teens gets reported less and investigated less. Plus, the teens have the opportunity to buy drugs and get stoned at their friends’ houses with less chance of a police officer interfering, because again the perception is that the officers are all at the convention center.
May 3rd, 2014 at 3:51 pm
“An armed society is a polite society.” – R.A. Heinlein.
May 3rd, 2014 at 3:59 pm
Mikee: I’d be curious to hear about similarly-sized events in Indianapolis — or, at any rate, events that used a similarly-sized police presence — and find out if the drop in teen violence was comparable.
Some of us, of course, would love to attribute this, at least in part, to the large number of known gun enthusiasts wandering around. Okay, fine. Is there any data in re other recent Indianapolis conventions?
May 3rd, 2014 at 5:32 pm
Carrying the correlation further, one might infer that the exponential growth of concealed carry by good Joes and Janes will have a similarly settling effect on would-be perps in their midst. Probably already is. Yes, we are winning in more ways than one.
May 3rd, 2014 at 8:37 pm
There’s an annual event called Indiana Black Expo which is well known for a huge increase in violence despite being saturated with police.
May 3rd, 2014 at 8:43 pm
“Teen violence rates decline whenever there is a big circus in a town –”
Ummm, no, you are very wrong.
I suggest you Google Indiana Black Expo and see the stories about the teen violence in the face of most of the Indianapolis police department being on the same blocks as where the gun battles taken place.
Start with the search term “Shamus Patton”.
May 3rd, 2014 at 8:51 pm
This is Indiana Black Expo 2010. Half (750) of the Indianapolis Metro Police Department is downtown Indianapolis for IBE2010. This happened despite wall to wall cops: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4s4f_ICCUdA
Nothing, absolutely nothing, happened at the NRA convention in Indianapolis–not Public Intox, not a single fight, no gunfire, no thefts, nothing. The usual suspects CAN read despite the non-effort by Indianapolis Public Schools. They saw the NRA banners and stayed away.