Nothing like throwing $500 at a $300 gun so you can turn it into a $200 gun.
The SKS “upgrade” crowd never ceases to amuse me. It’s a fine rifle for what it is. It’s NOT a platform one can customize into a competent AR or AK competitor.
Sight over bore offset = approx. 1.65 miles. There seems to be a competition, unstated and unorganized but still very persistent, to see who can get a sighting system higher over the bore than the other guy. The more “modern” the design, the more clownishly high are the sights.
Many years from now, someone will make a fortune patenting the “brand new concept” of lowering the sight height. Then of course it will become rediculous, and some gun writer will even tout the “benefits” of having the sights three feet under the barrel because, as we all know, if a little bit of something is “good” then a whole shitload of it is fantastic!!!!!
First though, we’ll have to be treated to the “benefits” of “periscopic Rifle Sights” (PRSs), which will have a point of view three feet above the shooter’s head and 3.5 feet over the bore. File photos of W.W. I trench guns will be used as proof that it’s a totally awesome idea which was far ahead of its time in 1917.
Actually, I’m waiting (and trying to be the one) who figures out how to do actual boresight optics. As in, some sort of SLR system that lets you actually sight through the bore.
I know it looks goofy, but it’s nice furniture. The SG stock kit transformed my Norinco SK into a mean machine! It brings the weight of the gun closer to you, balancing it much better. It shoulders well. Cycled hundreds of rounds through it without a hitch. It’s not for everyone, but works great for me. Definitely attracts attention at the range!
I’ve been an SKS fan since Navy Arms and SOG poured them on to our shores for $79. Shoulders better than an AK, better safety than an AK and you can shoot it comfortably on a mat. So no 30-40rd banana clips work well in an SKS? Who cares? You can carry way more ammo in 10 round strippers than in steel mags.
Is that the one that shoots the hot cases right in your face if you try to shoot from the left shoulder (like you might desperately need to do if, say, that was what available cover dictated)?
You know Lyle, one could mount an optic on the left quad rail of an AR for 0 sight over bore distance. Sight it parallel in the windage direction. So it always hits 1.5″ to the right? “At this point what difference does it make?”
grendel, you are correct of course, but actually I don’t believe that a zero vertical offset is desireable, in spite of what my comments might have led some to believe. Since gravity means that the bullet must be launched at an upward angle, so it can fall into a distant target, it is advantageous to have the sight axis above the bore somewhat. It’s when we have it several inches high, we run into issues at close range, and since the sight angle (the angle of the sight axis relative to bore axis) increases with sight height, keeping the rifle vertical becomes more critical with higher sights. In any case, and regardless of my intentionally comical diatribe above, one must always know his rifle’s trajectory.
December 16th, 2014 at 3:44 pm
Removable magazines. Never going to be reliable in an SKS, no matter how much bubba you add.
December 16th, 2014 at 4:21 pm
LARGE MOUND FORMS OVER SIMONOV’S GRAVE BY CONSTANT TUMBLING OF HIS ANGRY CORPSE
December 16th, 2014 at 4:49 pm
Nothing like throwing $500 at a $300 gun so you can turn it into a $200 gun.
The SKS “upgrade” crowd never ceases to amuse me. It’s a fine rifle for what it is. It’s NOT a platform one can customize into a competent AR or AK competitor.
December 16th, 2014 at 5:02 pm
I actually looked at that bullpup stock for my (not physically large) brother-in-law since his SKS is a little too front heavy for him.
Then we saw the $200+ price tag and we laughed and laughed.
December 16th, 2014 at 7:47 pm
One can have a pretty decent AR, or AK, for the price of that.
December 16th, 2014 at 8:02 pm
Sight over bore offset = approx. 1.65 miles. There seems to be a competition, unstated and unorganized but still very persistent, to see who can get a sighting system higher over the bore than the other guy. The more “modern” the design, the more clownishly high are the sights.
Many years from now, someone will make a fortune patenting the “brand new concept” of lowering the sight height. Then of course it will become rediculous, and some gun writer will even tout the “benefits” of having the sights three feet under the barrel because, as we all know, if a little bit of something is “good” then a whole shitload of it is fantastic!!!!!
First though, we’ll have to be treated to the “benefits” of “periscopic Rifle Sights” (PRSs), which will have a point of view three feet above the shooter’s head and 3.5 feet over the bore. File photos of W.W. I trench guns will be used as proof that it’s a totally awesome idea which was far ahead of its time in 1917.
December 16th, 2014 at 8:04 pm
Actually that should be “Periscopic Optical Sight”, or POS.
December 16th, 2014 at 8:06 pm
It totally needs a bayonet.
December 16th, 2014 at 8:41 pm
Actually, I’m waiting (and trying to be the one) who figures out how to do actual boresight optics. As in, some sort of SLR system that lets you actually sight through the bore.
December 16th, 2014 at 9:08 pm
I know it looks goofy, but it’s nice furniture. The SG stock kit transformed my Norinco SK into a mean machine! It brings the weight of the gun closer to you, balancing it much better. It shoulders well. Cycled hundreds of rounds through it without a hitch. It’s not for everyone, but works great for me. Definitely attracts attention at the range!
December 16th, 2014 at 11:23 pm
I’ve been an SKS fan since Navy Arms and SOG poured them on to our shores for $79. Shoulders better than an AK, better safety than an AK and you can shoot it comfortably on a mat. So no 30-40rd banana clips work well in an SKS? Who cares? You can carry way more ammo in 10 round strippers than in steel mags.
December 17th, 2014 at 12:57 am
So that’s a gun? Yeah, I see something that looks like a barrel sticking out of all that other stuff. 🙂
Nothing like doubling the weight of a gun with sundry do-dads that do little, if anything, to improve performance. To each their own…
December 17th, 2014 at 1:04 am
bubba’d.
a plain jane sks is a hell of a rifle, no need for the crapola.
December 17th, 2014 at 1:47 am
The only SKS I ever even halfway wanted was the one that takes AK mags.
December 17th, 2014 at 10:51 am
Just being in the same room with a gun like that makes you an OPERATOR!
I wonder if I can do that to my 10/22?
MC
December 17th, 2014 at 11:48 am
Is that the one that shoots the hot cases right in your face if you try to shoot from the left shoulder (like you might desperately need to do if, say, that was what available cover dictated)?
Freaking A.
December 17th, 2014 at 1:43 pm
You know Lyle, one could mount an optic on the left quad rail of an AR for 0 sight over bore distance. Sight it parallel in the windage direction. So it always hits 1.5″ to the right? “At this point what difference does it make?”
December 17th, 2014 at 6:30 pm
grendel, you are correct of course, but actually I don’t believe that a zero vertical offset is desireable, in spite of what my comments might have led some to believe. Since gravity means that the bullet must be launched at an upward angle, so it can fall into a distant target, it is advantageous to have the sight axis above the bore somewhat. It’s when we have it several inches high, we run into issues at close range, and since the sight angle (the angle of the sight axis relative to bore axis) increases with sight height, keeping the rifle vertical becomes more critical with higher sights. In any case, and regardless of my intentionally comical diatribe above, one must always know his rifle’s trajectory.
December 17th, 2014 at 8:22 pm
Yeah, I was trying to play along. I thought the Hillary quote would be a big enough clue.
December 18th, 2014 at 12:22 am
Didn’t see it on FB, but guessing it was on ETNF&G.
December 22nd, 2014 at 6:57 am
The only valid reason for this is ‘Because I Can’.
It badly needs more plastic over the barrel imo, just to keep the whole look going – at least then you’ll struggle to tell what’s under there.