My dad used one of those for awhile (Army, ’53 – ’55). He said almost no one could control the recoil, as every full-auto burst ended pointing almost straight up in the air.
They were experimental. Far as I can tell only a few test models were made & there were a few different types of automatic Garand that were tested (for instance, Springfield, Remington & Winchester each had at least one design iirc). I’m pretty sure none saw combat in ww2 or later/ The program that experimental full auto Garands came from eventually led to the M14.
The garand shown in the picture is actually a T23 conversion made by Remington. The T23 was select fire using the enbloc clip. The rear sight and the rear stock is the dead giveaway. Notice the comb of the stock is extremely high, almost reminicent of the M79 stock. This firearm was never issued to the field. The only garands that were full auto in action were those that were converted with a file in the field.
“The only garands that were full auto in action were those that were converted with a file in the field.”
My Dad, who served in the Pacific Theater during WWII told me about that. I recall it involved filing down part of the sear. He said because of the uncontrollable recoil it was great for killing air molecules but not much use against the Japs.
Obviously a test piece they were experimenting on.
But like the M2 Carbine, they no doubt found the operating slide took such a beating it would wear out early.
No biggie to day since they replace M4 bolts and M9 locking blocks and slides every so often but back then a military gun was supposed to work and work and work.
Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF) back then was supposed to be after a real lot of rounds, not 5000 or so like the AR series.
January 14th, 2015 at 3:04 pm
That must have been a real experience in full-auto mode.
January 14th, 2015 at 3:13 pm
Wow! I want!
January 14th, 2015 at 3:23 pm
And it has a 8 shot burst mode.
January 14th, 2015 at 3:28 pm
I’ve seen Garands with bad trigger jobs go full auto, it is exciting.
January 14th, 2015 at 3:34 pm
Watch your thumb on the tactical reloads.
January 14th, 2015 at 4:03 pm
buddabuddabuddabuddaPING!
January 14th, 2015 at 4:39 pm
My dad used one of those for awhile (Army, ’53 – ’55). He said almost no one could control the recoil, as every full-auto burst ended pointing almost straight up in the air.
That was his story, anyway.
January 14th, 2015 at 8:21 pm
It’s a quick eight-burst kinda shoulder-thing then *p’ting!* goes up.
January 14th, 2015 at 9:19 pm
Controlled, accurate, semi-auto fire is much better especially for a 30.06 round.
January 14th, 2015 at 11:04 pm
They were experimental. Far as I can tell only a few test models were made & there were a few different types of automatic Garand that were tested (for instance, Springfield, Remington & Winchester each had at least one design iirc). I’m pretty sure none saw combat in ww2 or later/ The program that experimental full auto Garands came from eventually led to the M14.
January 15th, 2015 at 12:05 am
So what, it comes with a shoestring in the box?
January 15th, 2015 at 3:32 am
The garand shown in the picture is actually a T23 conversion made by Remington. The T23 was select fire using the enbloc clip. The rear sight and the rear stock is the dead giveaway. Notice the comb of the stock is extremely high, almost reminicent of the M79 stock. This firearm was never issued to the field. The only garands that were full auto in action were those that were converted with a file in the field.
January 15th, 2015 at 11:50 am
>I’ve seen Garands with bad trigger jobs go full auto, it is exciting.
Weren’t some of them field modified for full-auto before landing in Normandy?
January 15th, 2015 at 5:56 pm
*BRAAAAAAAPING*
Heh.
January 15th, 2015 at 10:35 pm
I’ve had my Garand occasionally slam-fire . That’s as close to full auto as I want to get with 30.06 .
January 16th, 2015 at 2:05 am
Truly one of the great dumb ideas in firearms.
January 16th, 2015 at 4:37 am
“The only garands that were full auto in action were those that were converted with a file in the field.”
My Dad, who served in the Pacific Theater during WWII told me about that. I recall it involved filing down part of the sear. He said because of the uncontrollable recoil it was great for killing air molecules but not much use against the Japs.
January 16th, 2015 at 8:11 pm
I can see it with a 20 round mag but 8 shot?
Obviously a test piece they were experimenting on.
But like the M2 Carbine, they no doubt found the operating slide took such a beating it would wear out early.
No biggie to day since they replace M4 bolts and M9 locking blocks and slides every so often but back then a military gun was supposed to work and work and work.
Mean Time Between Failure (MTBF) back then was supposed to be after a real lot of rounds, not 5000 or so like the AR series.