Personal testimonial to the superiority of hiding guns versus securing them: I lost a scoped Rem .270 rifle, Rem 12 gauge, and Ruger 10/22 to the folks who broke into my house. The guns were broken out of the STACK-ON locker in which they were secured using a pair of hedge clippers the thieves picked up as they passed through the basement, where they made entry to my house by breaking in a window.
The thieves missed the 6 handguns hidden in an old rusty Craftsman toolbox under the work bench. The toolbox was my range bag at the time, and saved me from putting those handguns into criminal circulation in Baltimore, MD.
The rifle was found rusted all to hell in the woods behind my house 3 years later, the .22 & shotgun haven’t been seen since.
Good idea but what happens when the thieves use metal detectors? That was common in Northern Virgina in the ’70s when we lived there. A neighbor lost all her silverware even when wrapped up in unmarked boxes in the attic.
mikee, I had the opposite happen to me. When my home was broken into, they found all of my “hidden” firearms. But the items in my safe were untouched.
In my defense, I do keep my safe “hidden.” I would love to have a nicer safe, but I have no place to store it in my current home.
On that note, both of our statements can boil down to six of one/half dozen of the other. I’m fairly certain that the thieves were looking for my firearms, and since they found the hidden firearms my safe was untouched. Maybe if they found the safe first, the hidden firearms may have been bypassed.
Gladorn, I note one difference in our stories. You used a safe, I used a “STACK-ON” locker, screwed into the studs of my closet. It was pulled out of the closet, opened by prying the door corner back, and only a garden tool was used in the effort.
STACK-ON lockers are useless for secure storage of anything, against anyone but toddlers and (perhaps) paraplegics. And a determined toddler, or a paraplegic with a steely gaze, could probably break one open in less than 5 minutes.
Don’t buy or use STACK-ON gun lockers for firearm security.
I have a few Stack-On lockers and agree with mikee. The word “locker” is about right if you remember your high-school locker, except the one you have at home is not secured as well.
They are great for keeping random hands away from guns, but no determined person would be deterred more than a few minutes.
Also agree with Adam: teach kids not to play with guns, even though I wouldn’t trust that on its own.
March 23rd, 2015 at 6:05 pm
Personal testimonial to the superiority of hiding guns versus securing them: I lost a scoped Rem .270 rifle, Rem 12 gauge, and Ruger 10/22 to the folks who broke into my house. The guns were broken out of the STACK-ON locker in which they were secured using a pair of hedge clippers the thieves picked up as they passed through the basement, where they made entry to my house by breaking in a window.
The thieves missed the 6 handguns hidden in an old rusty Craftsman toolbox under the work bench. The toolbox was my range bag at the time, and saved me from putting those handguns into criminal circulation in Baltimore, MD.
The rifle was found rusted all to hell in the woods behind my house 3 years later, the .22 & shotgun haven’t been seen since.
The six handguns were, and are, still ok.
March 23rd, 2015 at 7:40 pm
Two comments:
1: The guy should do the same thing with his detergent.
2:
Bonus tip, for the “But what if a kid finds it?”:
Teach your kids not to pick up random guns they *find*.
Or really, random-anything-hazardous.
March 23rd, 2015 at 8:44 pm
Good idea but what happens when the thieves use metal detectors? That was common in Northern Virgina in the ’70s when we lived there. A neighbor lost all her silverware even when wrapped up in unmarked boxes in the attic.
March 24th, 2015 at 10:17 am
mikee, I had the opposite happen to me. When my home was broken into, they found all of my “hidden” firearms. But the items in my safe were untouched.
In my defense, I do keep my safe “hidden.” I would love to have a nicer safe, but I have no place to store it in my current home.
On that note, both of our statements can boil down to six of one/half dozen of the other. I’m fairly certain that the thieves were looking for my firearms, and since they found the hidden firearms my safe was untouched. Maybe if they found the safe first, the hidden firearms may have been bypassed.
March 24th, 2015 at 12:01 pm
Gladorn, I note one difference in our stories. You used a safe, I used a “STACK-ON” locker, screwed into the studs of my closet. It was pulled out of the closet, opened by prying the door corner back, and only a garden tool was used in the effort.
STACK-ON lockers are useless for secure storage of anything, against anyone but toddlers and (perhaps) paraplegics. And a determined toddler, or a paraplegic with a steely gaze, could probably break one open in less than 5 minutes.
Don’t buy or use STACK-ON gun lockers for firearm security.
March 24th, 2015 at 4:33 pm
I have a few Stack-On lockers and agree with mikee. The word “locker” is about right if you remember your high-school locker, except the one you have at home is not secured as well.
They are great for keeping random hands away from guns, but no determined person would be deterred more than a few minutes.
Also agree with Adam: teach kids not to play with guns, even though I wouldn’t trust that on its own.