Share the road
This is why I often roll my eyes at any lecture from motorcyclists.
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May 21st, 2015 at 8:00 pm
You should probably do a quick google of which “gangs” went to this event. I can’t help but to notice that there aren’t many, if any shell casings around the people who got shot.
Small things like a single steel toe shoe, or chain wallets were considered weapons at this event… Not to mention the knives pretty much everyone reading this has in arm’s reach…
May 21st, 2015 at 9:13 pm
I suspect the police counted dicks and balls as weapons too. Initially the police counted 1000 weapons. Then it fell to 320. With 120 guns. I was amazed at how all the numbers of the weapons the bikers carried were divisible by 10 without fail. Truth be told if there was 120 guns on site the bikers let the cops win.
May 21st, 2015 at 10:45 pm
That’s mostly crap over there, as usual.
Avoiding a place with a bunch of bikers gathered, like a bike show or a poker run…is no different than avoiding a place with a bunch of gunnies around…like a gun show or an NRA meeting.
What are we fond of saying? It’s not the hardware, it’s the software…and it’s as easy to tell the difference between a weekend club ride and thugs on wheels, as it is between a boomer shoot and some front-slung AK toters invading a Starbucks.
May 22nd, 2015 at 12:34 am
Yup, my experience of bikers is that they tend to be self-important assholes who think the wind in their hair entitles them to a bigger share of the road.
May 22nd, 2015 at 10:02 am
Had an incident in Connecticut, near the NY border, a few years ago where a biker threw a wrench at a car and the car driver shot the biker in the head. Done deal. The shooter was never found.
May 22nd, 2015 at 10:31 am
Way I put it earlier was “Been a lot of places with bikers around, no problem. But if I was in a restaurant and started seeing colors from two different gangs like that, I’d pay the check and leave.”
May 22nd, 2015 at 1:01 pm
I recall driving on the interstate, passing about 100 bikers out for a Sunday ride. They were paired two by two, taking up only one lane of the interstate, about 50 pairs in their long column of roaring magnificence.
My kids watched and waved at the bikers as we passed them. Some bikers waved back.
Just as we neared the front of the column, a spare helmet fell off one of the frontmost bikes and became a cannon ball among all the bikers coming up from behind. Much swerving, driving off the highway, and near collisions with each other ensued.
Nobody fell off, nobody wrecked. Close, though
May 22nd, 2015 at 1:53 pm
I ride and I ALWAYS look for the signs. It’s not always easy to tell. Not all gang members have swastikas carved in to their face. But one thing I’ve noticed in my area. Non-gang members always wave or give the “two on the road” sign as we pass. Gang members, nope…
May 22nd, 2015 at 4:25 pm
Like he said there, I see any three-patch colors that don’t involve Jesus or a deliberately non-threatening logo, and I get a little wary.
I see a 1% patch and I leave them the !$^@ alone and keep as much distance as possible. Not people to annoy.
(Likewise any gang I actually recognize. There’s a Gypsy Joker clubhouse in my vague part of town, so I see one now and then.
Fortunately they’re not looking for trouble in town among random people, because the Portland Police Department would come down on them like a ton of bricks.)
I mean, JTC’s right, in that just “a bunch of bikes” means almost nothing, and is usually not a sign of any trouble at all.
But it only takes a little education to tell the difference between “people who like to ride a Harley now and then” and “biker gang”.
The latter should be given a wide berth by everyday decent folk.
May 22nd, 2015 at 5:37 pm
Yeah, if they roll up with “Riders for Christ” on the back, its a bit different.
We have the Pagans around here… they rolled in, and petty carjacking came to an end. Break-ins by methheads looking to score things to sell for a fix went up. Imagine that.
They dont wave, I dont wave, dont f’ with my stuff, and i dont f’ with theirs. We dont really have cops out here, so for the moment, its really up to the neighborhood closer to the center of town to do something about it.
May 23rd, 2015 at 10:32 pm
‘Motorcyclist’ != ‘biker’ any more than ‘gun enthusiast’ = ‘MS13’
May 23rd, 2015 at 10:35 pm
Hi there. My name’s Matt, and I’m a biker. Not a lawyer or a dentist who bought 30,000 bucks worth of driveway jewelry, and only rides it on weekends. I’m a mechanic, and I ride an old, clapped out FL series shovelhead, or the old, clapped out, R series BMW ‘airhead’. Both of which I do all the wrenching on my own. I’m not rich, not am I particularly ‘middle class’.
I’m intimately familiar with ‘Biker Culture’. Again, not the weekend warriors, but the people who are ‘in the life’. I’ve associated with Outlaws, Bandidos, VVMC, and others. I -know- these people.
The Coalition of Clubs is a political organization. Its function is to raise awareness of ‘biker’s issues’. Basically, dealing with legislation that affects us bikers.
CoC meetings are -not- what they’re being portrayed in the media. They’re hot, boring, and long. It’s a bunch of people standing around, taking turns bitching about the government, -just like any other political group-.
Violence at a CoC meeting is simply… not allowed. Someone who started trouble at a CoC meeting would be in serious trouble with his Club, and would be looking at expulsion, or possibly worse.
And here’s a couple of shockers for you.
Most of the people currently cooling their heels on million dollar bail? They’re not 1%-ers. They’re cristian clubs, or veteran’s clubs. A number of the bikers arrested are part of BACA ( Bikers against child abuse, yes, it’s a club).
Over half of the arrested had -no criminal record of any kind-. A number of those arrested were arrested just for showing up a half hour after the whole thing was over.
I’m not claiming all the bikers there were saints. I’m sure, in a group of 200 people, there’s going to be a few shitbags. But not all of them are sinners, either.
May 24th, 2015 at 7:49 am
My life was saved by a bunch of bikers when a tow truck t-boned my mom’s van.
Also, if you look at the data, it was the cops that were shooting at the bikers.
May 26th, 2015 at 10:42 am
Writing off all motorcyclists because of bad apples is exactly the same as writing off all gun owners because of gangsters or open carriers doing dumb and illegal things. Don’t be that kind of bigot.