In some states, possibly
Time: Guns Were Much More Strictly Regulated in the 1920s and 1930s than They Are Today
It’s silliness of course. I mean, do they want us to go back to gun laws in the 1920s? I do.
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June 16th, 2015 at 7:36 pm
Look to popular culture of the day — Little Orphan Annie, to be exact. There were people using guns, but not all of them were evil. In the December 31, 1932 strip, for instance, Fred Futile (as Milquetoast a man as you could find) hauls out a revolver and shoots into the air to celebrate the New Year’s arrival. The gun wasn’t mentioned before, nor after. It simply was around the house, one of the common ways of celebrating, nothing worth mentioning.
Hardly a climate in which guns were repressed everywhere.
June 16th, 2015 at 7:38 pm
Pre NFA 36? Don’t throw me in that briar patch
June 16th, 2015 at 9:05 pm
The NFA took effect in 1934, but either way…
The Progressive era (marked by the idea that government’s job was to use its coercive power to mold and shape society, instead of securing human rights) was well under way by 1913.
There’s no period I want to “go back” to, because America’s promise was never fulfilled at any time. It came close between the end of the Civil War and about 1900, but there were still huge problems then, e.g., Government subsidized railroads, race discrimination, the persecution and killing of the native tribes and violation of those treaties (which were stupid anyway), etc. All along there were pockets of liberty here and there (if you were the right color, knew the right people, etc) while government was busy screwing with people somewhere else, but that’s about it.
No; it’s forward only, forward to realizing America’s Promise of Liberty and Justice for All.
June 16th, 2015 at 9:58 pm
Fûz
Didn’t the libs “outlaw” that book?
June 16th, 2015 at 10:07 pm
Maybe he’s thinking of the Federal Firearms Act of 1938?
June 16th, 2015 at 10:14 pm
Lyle, also in 1913 there was two major assaults against our Constitutional Republic with the Federal Reserve Act by which Congress abdicated its delegated power over our money to a private banking cartel and the creation of the Personal income tax which violated the 4th and 5th Amemendments.
June 17th, 2015 at 12:40 am
Most of the states they speak of as models are the same terrible states we know and love today, and are now worse than they were back then.
June 17th, 2015 at 12:56 am
If we went back to any period between FFA 1938 and GCA 1968, we’d lose the concealed carry revolution. But back then, the big complaint among gun control advocates was the carry restrictions weren’t strong enough. In most jurisdictions, there were “loopholes.” Yeah, freedom the elites don’t like being called “loopholes” dates back to at least 1938.
Loopholes included being permits issued widely on a shall-issue basis, not including transportation in cars (early restrictions all had travel exceptions, or just didn’t outright cover transportation in vehicles.)
Back then if you wanted to carry, to be blunt, if you were the right color and the right socioeconomic status, you could do so. That wasn’t restricted to the South.
I have a hypothesis that when all this bullshit stared being applied evenly, largely because the Civil Rights Movement made the kinds of unequal treatment socially unpalatable, the concealed carry revolution started.
Even here in PA, I knew people who carried before the law changed. There wasn’t much fear if you weren’t in a demographic that could be a problem. There were a lot of people everywhere carrying and getting away with it.
I have a post churning in my head about this, if I can find time to do it.
June 17th, 2015 at 8:33 am
And yet our homicide rate with today’s “looser” restrictions is -lower- than the ’20s-’30s. We’re at 1910 rates.
June 17th, 2015 at 9:29 am
Hey Sebastian, you could have all kinds of fun with this.
Way back, it wasn’t just gun rights, you could couple that with prohibition, voting, and a litany of other items…
June 17th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
Yes, Matthew:
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” –Robert A. Heinlein
June 17th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
It’d take Federal gun control laws of any time before 1968, and ideally before 1938.
With the one exception of FOPA being pretty nice.
State laws are mostly far better now, as Sebastian says.
June 17th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
Matthew: Homicide is a poor metric of violent crime, and deaths from gunshot wounds is an extremely poor metric of violence involving guns.
The simple reason for this is that in the 1920s, say, antibiotics were nonexistant and a simple wound from a .22LR could kill you of sepsis three weeks after you got shot, while today that same wound might be completely healed within 3 weeks of starting antibiotic therapy.
Even today, gun homicide depends on how long it takes to get an EMT to your wounded self and then the time it takes to get you into surgery, maybe more than how badly you were shot up.
June 17th, 2015 at 4:56 pm
This article is bad beyond belief.
June 17th, 2015 at 5:36 pm
I can’t decide. Should I get a BAR or a Thompson?
June 17th, 2015 at 5:42 pm
*gives Lyle’s comment a standing ovation*
June 17th, 2015 at 7:05 pm
mikee, and yet “gun death” is the chosen metric of gun prohibitionists. They don’t get to claim there’s a problem using that metric in our country or compared to other countries then in the same breath say it isn’t relevant.