Guns at the post office
A court overturns a ruling that the PO cannot ban guns in the parking lots but can ban them in the actual PO itself. The court said that the PO can ban guns in both places.
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July 21st, 2015 at 8:57 pm
Congress needs to act. Time for them to put up or shut up.
Even if vetoed they will be on record as showing “the will of the people.” Which has influence with the Judiciary.
July 21st, 2015 at 10:58 pm
Now if I could only get out of the jury duty that they won’t allow me to serve by refusing to “voluntarily” be searched as I pass through the metal detectors.
July 22nd, 2015 at 10:48 am
I don’t live in the 10th Circuit. I live in Texas, in the 5th Circuit.
I used to keep a firearm in my vehicle, and in years past I have parked in Post Office parking lots when picking up mail from my box inside the Post Office building.
Do I in future need to park on the street, beyond the Post Office property line, to have a firearm in my vehicle legally while picking up my mail here in Texas?
Was I breaking the law all that time unknowingly?
I thought the ban on firearms in US Postal facilities was to prevent POSTAL EMPLOYEES from going, well, postal on their coworkers and customers, not to prevent the law-abiding from self defense against that same problem.
What a bizarro world we are living in these days.
July 22nd, 2015 at 1:23 pm
mikee,
Last I checked with the actual rules, the last time there was a go-round on the gun fori, the parking lot of a stand-alone post office is usually USPS property and the gun ban applies. So yes, you are in violation parking there with a gun in your car regardless of state “parking lot law” bills.
However, the USPS kiosks or desks in malls and other businesses do not extend the ban to those locations. Nor does the presence of a USPS mini-office in a strip mall make the mall parking lot nor the hallway/walkway outside their leased space’s doors prohibited. If in doubt if a given not-obviously-a-Post-Office building is prohibited, look for the required poster barring carry. No poster, (almost certainly) no ban.
July 22nd, 2015 at 4:26 pm
So I guess when I drop a couple gunbroker Priority boxes on the counter, have them stamp the dealer-to dealer-form and tell them what’s in there, not only have I provided the means by which a PO’d PO grunt can go postal, but broken fed law?
July 22nd, 2015 at 5:01 pm
I have a mailbox on the curb of my home to receive mail, but other than that, I avoid USPS like the plague. Using them is an option of last resort with me. They cost me $300 dollars on something I shipped, because they “lost” it. This is just one more reason to continue avoiding them.
July 22nd, 2015 at 5:27 pm
pawnbroker,
As I recall, and without looking, the exception to the possession restriction is “for lawful purposes.”
The problem being the USPS and the Courts do not consider carry on the person for the purpose of self-defense, or any transport other than for mailing per USPS regulations, to be a “lawful purpose.”
July 24th, 2015 at 7:26 pm
Will USPS be liable if a disarmed patron on their property is attacked/assaulted ?