Another shooting made the news, everybody panic
This one, turns out, was dramatized by the fact that the shooter did it on a live newscast and also filmed himself doing the shooting. As yet, no one knows much detail on his gun, other than his claim to have bought it after the Charleston shooting and he wanted to kill white people. Or former co-workers. Who knows? Or cares? Without those details, still calls for gun control and lies from the Obama administration.
It’s major news because it was caught on tape and the media likes to talk about the media.
Now, I watched the video that the psycho took of the shooting (you can see it here but it’s not real pleasant). A few notes:
The nutjob waited for a good 30 or so seconds for the cameraman to stop panning the scenery and get the reporter in frame before shooting.
Two women and one man did not notice a guy standing around them for 30 or so seconds waving a gun and a smart phone. Now, I realize they were working and no doubt focused on their job. But I’d have thought someone would have noticed.
August 26th, 2015 at 8:09 pm
I thought the same thing, how could one of the women not noticed something.
August 26th, 2015 at 8:23 pm
Situational Awareness gets a bum rap from those who say you can’t go about your daily bidness while swiveling your neck around and eyeballing every bipod in the vicinity like an SS dude at a POTUS meet n greet, and that is true. But of course a peripheral picture of your surroundings and nearby strangers certainly is possible and advisable; that could and should apply to everyone, toter or not.
But I would contend that the act of CC in itself enhances awareness, on the notion that if you have decided to carry the means to protect from random badness you are much more likely to be running a background profile of the proximity of potential badness.
And that is to say that I believe that if any of those three victims was a concealed carrier, there’s no way in hell that racist wackjob gets that close for that long without notice or challenge or countermeasure.
Chew on that for a bit, you blood-dancing, gun-grabbing, freedom-blaming freaks.
August 26th, 2015 at 9:49 pm
I think the White House and media are working overtime right now trying to connect a 41-year old black homosexual, murdering and cowardly male — one who wanted to start a race war — to a Virginia TEA (Taxed Enough Already) Party organization.
August 26th, 2015 at 10:37 pm
Odumbo and Valeri Jarret are calling for more gun control and MSNBC had some “expert” saying the founding fathers didn’t intend for the 2nd Amendment to be about personal arms, just militia, and the Supreme Court was wrong by saying it did.
August 26th, 2015 at 10:56 pm
He did nothing wrong in Va until he brandished the weapon. No one, not even a police officer could say word to him until he did so. You would shit yourself before you could get your fetish out.
August 27th, 2015 at 3:57 am
Metulj has a point – paying attention to what’s going on around you is critical, and once any out of the ordinary behavior is noted it’s time to undertake some protective measures, but until a direct threat appears what action one takes is rather limited legally. In this instance, once the gun comes out what action could be taken? Throw the camera at him, use the microphone as a club? I’d guess random passersby as curious observers is not uncommon at standups so initially the shooter wouldn’t draw much attention, and from the body language and positioning (not to mention a filming location that offered no advantage) it’s obvious neither the interviewer or interviewee ever considered situational awareness as a concept. Even with SA, though, once the threat appeared it was too late – it’s pretty damn tough to outdraw a drawn gun. Had standing positions been reversed – and SA employed – it’s possible the interviewer might have recognized a fired former employee, but what then? She was media – guns are useful as props for crime stories, not for one’s own self defense and calling 911 suffers from the standard limitations.
August 27th, 2015 at 6:34 am
If anyone here has spent any time behind a camera, or even spends a lot of time on their smart phone they know that these things require tunnel vision to an extent. Coupled with the fact that most media people expect to be reporting the news, not BE the news. Let’s be cautious about armchair quarterbacking the victims. At the very least it makes us look like armchair mall ninjas. Unfortunately, we cannot be hyper vigilant all the time. None of us can. That said, that sack of ass victimized people who had nothing to do with anything because some other people were victimized in the same manner. This sack of shit killed himself on top of it, and that enrages me because I’d love to have him alone for about 5 minutes.
August 27th, 2015 at 7:45 am
You see video all the time of reporters being pranked by walk-bys, all part of the game. The Trouper thing to do is ignore whatever is going on around you and deliver those lines. I’m sure they teach that in “J-School.”
Somehow, broadcast journalists have convinced themselves that they’re outside the action of the mundane world, on an elevated plane, despite Arthur Kent in Baghdad and Bonnie Bedelia taking down Atherton. These two, sadly, got it right through the Proscenium Arch.
August 27th, 2015 at 9:25 am
The most interesting thing about this shooting is the white guy holding the gun. Here is a photo of Bryce Williams hand.
http://cdn.rt.com/files/2015.08/original/55ddf377c3618892168b45de.jpg
Notice his knuckles, the difference between the colot of his skin tone and nails, and there would be a different color or tone between the back of his hand and palm, even if he is light skinned or “high yellow”, am I the only one that see’s this?
http://www.tbo.com/storyimage/TB/20150826/ARTICLE/150829406/EP/1/5/EP-150829406.jpg
And it becomes more clear after the first shot, when it shows his hand with his sleeve rolled up, he is lighter skinned than the reporter or the camera man.
http://i.ytimg.com/vi/4iLQjTAbsJQ/hqdefault.jpg
Now I do love a good conspiracy, but if anyone is honest with themselves, then they will see exactly what I see. Am I losing it, or does it not look like a white hand and wrist in the shooting? Cell phone cams would actually show a darker tint, not a lighter one as the reporter herself is white as a snowflake, and the camera man was tan, but the shooters hand is white, no question.
August 27th, 2015 at 9:36 am
Didn’t take long for the anti-civil rights crowd to dance in the blood of the victims.
August 27th, 2015 at 11:51 am
Are some here actually arguing that these reporters were so focused on the importance of their jobs that they were totally oblivious to their surroundings?
First, teevee reporters are called on to cover crime scenes, crashes, fires, etc. every day. And every one of those scenarios carries some degree of risk to those on the scene, not to mention that local teevee personalities, especially young women, tend to attract wackjobs and stalkers and part of their training often is and always should be, to be on the lookout for odd acting/looking individuals hanging around a location, even one as seemingly innocuous as a chamber of commerce fluff piece.
Second, how disingenuous to argue that the preoccupation or focus on the task at hand is somehow different or more important than the jobs that we all do every day, in public, in the office, in traffic, there is the potential for stupid all around all of us, and that whole line of excuse just doesn’t fly.
Third, my argument above that the decision and act of concealed carry automatically imbues a sense of the responsibility for one’s own protection, with a large part of that being aware of one’s surroundings, at least in a peripheral manner. If any of those three were armed, there is no guarantee that they could react in time to defend from such random crazy evil, but it is highly likely that they would have not been completely unaware of his presence and could have at least attempted to stop the threat, and just might have been able to take out the nutjob before he shot all three of them. And if this is not the case, then why exactly do any of us carry at all?
I have argued in the past that the complete reverse of being totally oblivious, the sheepdog types who actively look for a potential threat to employ their skillz and be a big hero, is an actual thing and I have seen it many times or heard newbie carriers so something like that. But the true purpose and need for accepting personal responsibility for one’s own protection, carrying and training for that once in a lifetime event, is what we all talk about and encourage others to do all of the time.
The middle ground between walking around in complete unawareness of the potential for the stupids around us to act out, and the sheepdog or mall ninja mentalities who just can’t wait to pop a BG, played out in this case right in front of us, but occurs every day off-camera. Unknown is how many times awareness and preparedness keeps the nutball in his shell? I know for absolute certain that my eye contact and engaging every customer who walks in my door has dissuaded some who made the hair on my neck stand up from doing what they came to do, and I’ve been lucky; in nearly forty years never having to actually draw down, but I’ve been ready, and it is my contention that readiness is the very best deterrent there is. And arguing that the job preoccupation of these reporters is different than what all of us do and is an excuse for total lack of awareness is just total BS. If anything this case should be a wakeup call for the need for awareness and capability to defend, that would be actual common sense and not just another excuse for blood-dancing antis to push their real agenda of disarmament of all but the armies and popo and bodyguards of those whose well-being is much more important than yours or mine.
August 27th, 2015 at 3:14 pm
It is interesting that no one glimpsed out of the corner of their eye and had their alarm bells go off. But most people, and the news crew were young, haven’t thought of situational awareness or being untrusting. Also, she has the natural reaction to flee, but the best strategy is to run toward a run and away from a knife. The “run toward” is a trained response and requires thought and knowledge of shooting threats, i.e., intellectual reaction in a moment of surprise and panic.
All we can really say is these people were not conditioned for an untrustworthy or high threat environment. Probably because Southern Virginia
isn’twasn’t either of those.August 29th, 2015 at 5:19 pm
I – like most of you, if not all – am all for carrying, being prepared, and being situationally aware.
But in this particular case of them doing their jobs, without having a third person there to be aware for them, about the only thing they *might* have had time to do if they saw him was to simply run like motherfuckers.