In VA
So, they elected a bunch of democrats and this happens: Virginia to stop recognizing concealed carry gun permits from 25 states
As to the details:
Under the policy, Virginians with a history of stalking, drug dealing or inpatient mental-health treatment cannot obtain a permit in a state with comparatively lax laws and carry a handgun legally at home.
Herring said severing the out-of-state agreements can prevent people who may be dangerous or irresponsible from carrying a concealed handgun.
I’m not sure of any state that allows anyone who deals drugs to carry. It’s just your standard gun control push, with vague justification.
December 22nd, 2015 at 6:15 pm
I’ll just stay out of their state and not let them have any of my money.
December 22nd, 2015 at 6:24 pm
Does this new rule apply to jihadists as well? What about a jihadist with a history of stalking, drug dealing or inpatient mental-health treatment? Could he get a permit to carry? Would the BATFE give him a free AK?
We all know that a jihadist is going to be totally swayed by what’s legal and what isn’t, so this totally makes sense. Sure. You can’t go in and murder a dosen people in an office building if it would be illegal to have the gun to do it. Yeah, perfect sense.
December 22nd, 2015 at 8:29 pm
For a state that sells huge numbers of out of state licenses this is a bit hypocritical. But that never stopped gun grabbers.
December 22nd, 2015 at 8:39 pm
I ride my ATV in the hills of east Ky and into VA a lot–live damn near on the border, less than a mile straight line. I carry when on the ATV (actually anytime I’m outside my front door), I could break the law and never know it, there are no little white lines on the ground in the forest showing state lines.
But, VA is an open carry state. Guess I’ll just upgrade the carry gun to the .357 when on the ATV.
Hell, I have family that live in KY and to leave their house they MUST drive into VA–the ONLY road out is into VA.
I think KY does the best on reciprocity–if your state issues a concealed deadly weapon carry permit, KY honors it. No muss, no fuss. You got one? It’s good in KY.
December 22nd, 2015 at 9:56 pm
Yeah, as a stalker, drug dealer and mental patient for most of my life, I know I could never consider carrying a gun around without a permit. Obviously they wouldn’t let me have one in VA, but which states were those that would issue me one? Somebody over there needs to get all up in everyone’s faces about what a moron this guy is.
December 22nd, 2015 at 9:59 pm
Tennessee solves this imaginary problem by honoring all out of state permits held by non-residents, but not honoring out of state permits hels by residents.
But of course that’s not the actual goal here, is it?
December 22nd, 2015 at 11:33 pm
Don’t blame me. I did not vote for those idiots. And, FWIW, VCDL has gotten the word out, which should help increase our numbers on the upcoming Lobby Day.
Interestingly, while Gubner McAwful just got an emergency EO to ban carry in state executive buildings, it does NOT apply to the General Assembly building. We will be there, armed, in force in January.
December 23rd, 2015 at 1:53 am
“Herring said severing the out-of-state agreements can prevent people who may be dangerous or irresponsible from carrying a concealed handgun.”
That pretty well covers Democrats.
December 23rd, 2015 at 5:32 am
In the Consttution of the Commonwealth of Virginia Article 1, Section 13 is the RKBA section. Code of Virginia Section 18.2-308 is the weapons carrying section, which states in its first sentence a prohibition on carrying a firearm “….hidden from common observation….” affirming the commonwealth’s constitution affirmation of a natural right, making open carry legal throughout the state.
Back when Virginia went statewide on CWPs (early 1980s; prior to that CWPs were issued by each court circuit and valid only within that circuit) it was “may issue” and when applying the cops would – right at the beginning of the interview – ask “you do know open carry of a firearm is legal in Virginia, so why do you want a concealed weapon permit?” The law change to “shall issue” ended that and took the local cops out of the loop. It’s been a couple decades since I lived there, but I found it interesting that it was legal to open carry into courthouses but concealed carry was prohibited; the courthouses I entered back then had the metal detectors at the courtroom doors, not the courthouse doors, because open carry was constitutionally guaranteed while concealed carry was authorized by statute and hence could be regulated by statute or ordinance.
Seems like the problem is solvable, at least until Virginia gets a real governor, by simply going to open carry. Not that doing so won’t probably Upset The White People and will probably generate frequent Curious Questions By Police in the liberal urban areas. Just don’t “carry at someone” to use Tam’s phrasing.
December 23rd, 2015 at 1:36 pm
I’m not sure natural and/or Constitutional rights are subject to executive action. Either all out-of-state CHPs are valid in Virginia, or none are (unless specifically stated in the Code of Virginia).