That is not a quirk, that was the plan. They want control over who the nominee will be. I’m sure there is a similar system for the other side – but we won’t be informed of it unless Trump takes 49 states by a hefty margin but someone else ends up being the nominee.
Indeed. The *only* purpose of the super delegates is to have a select pool of people to counter the popular will of the outer party.
And when 20-25% of the delegate votes come from the inner party, then they have a pretty strong /veto/.
Otherwise there’d be no *point*.
Here’s a fun bit of math (Say 20% of the delegates are super delegates. Say Hillary wins those by more than 90%, Well she only needs to win 40% of the other delegate votes to get a majority.)
(Yes that means Hillary could lose to Bernie by 20% on the actual primaries and caucuses and *still* come out ahead)
And as stated before the /only/ purpose of having so many super delegates would be so they could act contrary to the way the primaries and caucuses go
They came up in 2008 as well, though most super-delegates were shamed into supporting Obama in the end as not to overturn the will of the people. I suspect the same thing will happen again.
@bogie: The GOPe tends to control the nominee list by twisting the rules to exclude the unacceptable candidates from the early debates. That way, the undesirables can’t build enough of a base to survive the primaries.
I’m sure they have a backup plan for when someone (like Trump) manages to survive that, though.
February 11th, 2016 at 12:52 pm
but superdelegates can switch. they will, IF bernie can show that he has passionate dem voters behind him.
February 11th, 2016 at 1:08 pm
That is not a quirk, that was the plan. They want control over who the nominee will be. I’m sure there is a similar system for the other side – but we won’t be informed of it unless Trump takes 49 states by a hefty margin but someone else ends up being the nominee.
February 11th, 2016 at 1:39 pm
Indeed. The *only* purpose of the super delegates is to have a select pool of people to counter the popular will of the outer party.
And when 20-25% of the delegate votes come from the inner party, then they have a pretty strong /veto/.
Otherwise there’d be no *point*.
Here’s a fun bit of math (Say 20% of the delegates are super delegates. Say Hillary wins those by more than 90%, Well she only needs to win 40% of the other delegate votes to get a majority.)
(Yes that means Hillary could lose to Bernie by 20% on the actual primaries and caucuses and *still* come out ahead)
And as stated before the /only/ purpose of having so many super delegates would be so they could act contrary to the way the primaries and caucuses go
February 11th, 2016 at 1:46 pm
They came up in 2008 as well, though most super-delegates were shamed into supporting Obama in the end as not to overturn the will of the people. I suspect the same thing will happen again.
February 11th, 2016 at 2:21 pm
@bogie: The GOPe tends to control the nominee list by twisting the rules to exclude the unacceptable candidates from the early debates. That way, the undesirables can’t build enough of a base to survive the primaries.
I’m sure they have a backup plan for when someone (like Trump) manages to survive that, though.
February 11th, 2016 at 2:36 pm
That’s strange, I haven’t heard Bernie complain about that demise of democracy in the Democratic Party.
February 11th, 2016 at 4:31 pm
“quirk…”
It’s not a quirk, when it’s the plan all along…
February 11th, 2016 at 8:32 pm
Can the Clinton’s and Bush’s go away already? UGH!!!