The Trumpening
Michael Bane lists why he’s supporting Trump. It’s because he votes guns. Trump’s position on guns at his website is pro-gun. And Hillary is anti-gun.
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May 9th, 2016 at 5:59 pm
Some say that is just one “social issue”. But it is and has always been the deciding issue as to whether the people will be the subjects of slavery and tyranny or whether they will be “free and independent” with Liberty.
“The possession of arms is the distinction between a freeman and a slave. He, who has nothing, and who himself belongs to another, must be defended by him, whose property he is, and needs no arms. But he, who thinks he is his own master, and has what he can call his own, ought to have arms to defend himself, and what he possesses; else he lives precariously, and at discretion.” –James Burgh, English statesman (1714-1775)
May 9th, 2016 at 6:13 pm
Trump picks Christie to be his transition committee lead. That’s a relief, I thought he might start adding liberals to his team.
Isn’t Trump a New York City, Limousine, Liberal? Oh wait, it’s different if they own the limo instead of hire it.
May 9th, 2016 at 7:14 pm
He was against guns before he was for them. I wish I was as sure about him as Bane is.
May 9th, 2016 at 7:19 pm
I don’t question Bane’s credentials as a Second Amendment activist.
I question whether he’s considered Trump’s total history, much less his apparent inability to stick to a single position on a single issue.
Me, I’ll support the consistently pro-liberty candidate.
May 9th, 2016 at 8:20 pm
People should start talking about how we will overcome a Hillary Supreme Court justice pick overturning Heller. It’s time to start thinking about a Constitutional Convention to amend the Constitution to make sure the individual right to keep and bear arms is kept.
May 9th, 2016 at 8:38 pm
The people had those rights BEFORE the Bill of Rights was added in 1791 to “prevent abuses and usurpations”. The problem is that the ruling elites simply disobey the wording of the Constitution and Bill of Rights. The 2nd Amendment IN CONTEXT with Article I, Section 8.16 is clearly one of the people. Only people have rights. The government has NO rights, only delegated powers. And the Federal Giverment only has power for governing such part of the militia (armed citizenry) which is EMPLOYED in its service. The problem was and is:
“How strangely will the tools of a tyrant pervert the plain meaning of words.” –Samuel Adams
May 9th, 2016 at 9:13 pm
Trump now says that he is pro gun. He once indicated that he wasn’t. I don’t actually know what his true stance is.
I do know what Hillary’s is, though. I remember the days of AW bans, Waco, and Ruby Ridge. Do you want to go back to that?
And don’t give me any nonsense about voting for the cocaine and hookers ticket of the Libertarian party. There are Democrats voting for Hillary in Maryland alone than there are Libertarian votes in the entire nation.
If people refuse to support the Republican candidate, understand that we are going back to a Clinton Whitehouse.
May 9th, 2016 at 9:48 pm
We know what she WILL do. We don’t know what he Might do. I’ll take the might over the will any day-though holding my nose. And taking a very hot shower to decontaminate after pulling the lever for the trumpster.
May 9th, 2016 at 10:17 pm
George W. Bush and Mitt Romney had anti-gun views. Bush was willing to sign a renewal of Clinton’s AWB, but the Republican House refused to bring it up for a vote. Oh, there was disunity among the Republicans! And where was the STOP BUSH and STOP Romney movements among the conservatives? But hey, there was a STOP REAGAN movement among Republicans lead by National Review in the spring of 1980, but now he’s the icon of National Review. Go figure???
May 9th, 2016 at 10:33 pm
Our 2A rights have really been in the hands of the House, this last decade. I believe Trump will be a disaster down ticket, if not in Presidential race.
It’s too late now unfortunately but I don’t believe Trump will give a crap for us.
May 9th, 2016 at 10:57 pm
IF Trump is the nominee, I will support him (as in voting for him.) BUT, I will also vote for CONSERVATIVE Republicans and Libertarians to a) support Trump if he keeps his word, and b) fight him if he crawfishes on his word.
As for Hillary, the only time I will vote for Hillary is when I’m on the JURY and she is on TRIAL. And I will vote GUILTY.
May 9th, 2016 at 11:32 pm
Deaf Smith,
This is the attitude we should all have, all the time.
“Trust, but verify”.
May 10th, 2016 at 12:01 am
@Deaf Smith, good plan. Trump will actually be the first major party presidential candidate I’ve voted for since relunctantly voting for Bush in 2000. Then I found out he was an open borders, anti-gun, police-state phony conservative. Those who allow our country to be invaded (Obama-Bush-Bill Clinton-Bush) are definitely traitors. Hillary has already promised to do the same. Trump says different. Let’s see.
And: ONLY YOUR ENEMY WANTS YOU DISARMED
May 10th, 2016 at 12:19 am
When Trump gets all pissed and can’t contain it anymore, and lashes out against conservatives and libertarians like McCain did against the teaparty, because we’re so totally beneath him, it’ll be said that it’s our fault, because we were so distrustful and critical of him or we’re so stupid and thick-headed to be so attached to “rigid ideology” or some such. But he won’t put it in such big words as “rigid ideology” unless it comes from a speech writer.
May 10th, 2016 at 12:31 am
“Trust but verify?”
Naw; with politicians it’s always “support, then regret”, because the verification doesn’t come until after the election. If what needs to be verified in your mind in this case hasn’t been verified by now, I don’t know of anything that could do the actual verifying.
Regardless; I’m reminded of the words reportedly coming out of GW Bush’s mouth. “You don’t underSTAND! It doesn’t MATTER who’s president!” Apparently he said that with a red-faced pissed, as he wagged a finger in Glenn Beck’s face during a private meeting.
Regardless of any of that; if you’re looking at one son of a bitch, or one bitch, to save the country you’re looking so far away from the right place that it’s hardly worth talking to you.
May 10th, 2016 at 12:38 am
Forty-eight states had concealed carry in some form, 38(?) shall issue, by the time of Heller; forty-nine by the the time of MacDonald. The winning battles are in Congress and the state legislatures and not before the black-robed junta. Support the NRA.
May 10th, 2016 at 1:23 am
The key is can Trump be incentivized to support gun rights.
Hillary is ideologically opposed to gun rights for law abiding citizens.
Pick the candidate that will fear the electoral beating from those who support gun rights.
May 10th, 2016 at 1:45 am
Go trump!
May 10th, 2016 at 9:40 am
R. Lee Ermey said in a recent video that Trump’s son shoots on his team and Trump senior will be a protector on 2nd Amendment rights.
May 10th, 2016 at 1:12 pm
In this case we can safely reverse the old idiom, “Better the devil you know, than the devil you don’t”.
The one we know has promised to take our money, our guns, and our rights. The one we don’t has promised not to.
I believe her. I want to believe him.
May 10th, 2016 at 1:21 pm
Hillary wants to continue the legacy of a proven lawless president for whom supposed “conservative” Republicans have capitulated. She has promised to DO MORE in allowing the invasion of our country and appeasing and accommodating the invaders. He has done all he can to take our guns and she promises to DO MORE. Both represent the flagrant treason of an enemy!
May 10th, 2016 at 3:27 pm
I read the pretty words on the website too. But I also read of his support for Trayvon Martin not so very long ago. So who is the real Trump? My method of dealing with politicians is to ignore campaign rhetoric and see what they did when they weren’t running.
May 10th, 2016 at 4:11 pm
^^^^^This^^^^^
Trump’s campaign promises and his history don’t match up (except for where he’s already reversed his campaign stances now that he’s presumed to be the nominee). Better to have someone you know is your enemy and can face head on than someone who will stab you in the back just when you think he’s going to support you.
May 10th, 2016 at 8:27 pm
That was Obama that was sympathetic to Trayvon Martin.
May 10th, 2016 at 9:28 pm
http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2016/02/26/3754134/trayvon-martin-fourth-anniversary/
May 10th, 2016 at 9:41 pm
@burnt toast
That was Obama that was sympathetic to Trayvon Martin.
Trump too. I posted the link here before but I can’t find it now. He was in a celebrity list of supporters.
May 10th, 2016 at 10:41 pm
Sympathetic? Nothing wrong with that.
No doubt that kid was a thug in training, but he was still a kid and not engaged in thuggery *at the time*. And that’s the thing. Zimmerman did what he had to do with his firearm as he had his head pounded into the pavement. But he didn’t have to allow himself to get into that position; there was no active threat by Martin that justified Z not keeping his ass in his truck and letting the cops that he pays for the purpose come and check out his suspicions that Martin was up to no good.
So in the end, the wannabe thug is dead and Zimmerman’s life is over too for all intents and purposes. And Trump’s assertions later on that Z is prone to trouble and is no angel? Z has done his best in the last four years to prove that is true. Too many gunnies explode at any hint by public figures of anything but total gung-ho support for any and all action by concealed carriers, but the truth is that way too many are way too anxious to play sheepdog or cop rather than avoiding deadly conflict unless and until there is no other choice, and Zimmerman fit that mold perfectly…in Mas Ayoob’s series on the case I went back and forth with him many times for his failure to use Zimmerman’s actions as an example of what not to do. While I supported Z’s final action and the verdict and told Mas that, I felt and still feel that not criticizing his actions prior to the shooting could cause others to take that as approved behavior, a danger to many who look up to Mas.
Pretty courageous of Trump to speak his mind and the truth rather than marching in lockstep, and he’s right in this case. Nothing is totally absolute even on issues that are near and dear to our hearts; that’s the behavior of the antis and progs that disgust us so much. From what I’ve seen and heard, this is Trump being Trump, beholden to no one and taking things case by case…and like Bane said (and who has researched it more than him?), I think DT’s position on private gun rights and support of 2A is stronger than any candidate we’ve seen in decades.
May 11th, 2016 at 7:58 am
If RKBA is your one issue, Trump beats Hillary every way from Sunday. After the election, he may turn out to be squishier than his wife’s silicone enhancements, but Hillary has always been a solid gun-grabber as is her constituency. It would be dishonest to say otherwise.
May 11th, 2016 at 1:17 pm
@nk, The RKBA is a major issue in determining a candidates attitude toward the rights of the people. Anyone who doesn’t trust the people to exercise their basic right of armed self defense cannot be trusted with delegated powers.
May 11th, 2016 at 3:20 pm
Like I said long ago… if you get 20 million new “fellow citizens” via Amnesty, no matter if it’s Queen Hill or The One True Cruz who makes it happen, your gun rights are over and so is much of everything else. They’ll vote 75-95% Democrat (just like they did after the Reagan amnesty and the Bush amnesty) and that will be enough to turn the purple states deep blue and the red states purple. We’ve already seen how the Dems behave when you give them a functional majority in the House and Senate, plus the Presidency.
Tax policy, RKBA, judgeships all matter… but the one issue that’s become win-or-die for this nation is immigration.
May 11th, 2016 at 7:33 pm
DaveP, yes, you’re right. Successive treasonous administrations have imposed that on us. Re-asserting the principles of the Declaration of Independence and secession are remedies.
May 11th, 2016 at 8:18 pm
Somebody mention secession? As usual, Big T leads the way:
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/texas-gop-to-debate-secession-on-convention-floor/ar-BBsVO8V?li=BBnb7Kz
The ties to the mainland, as it were, have always been a little tenuous for the Lone Star State; what better place for the nucleus and capitol of the New Republic?
May 12th, 2016 at 4:54 pm
And speaking of Zimmerman, not only as Trump says is he “prone to trouble”, hell he creates it:
https://www.buzzfeed.com/salvadorhernandez/george-zimmerman-is-auctioning-the-gun-he-used-to-kill-trayv?utm_term=.juE5opeXdk#.bbvv4QwzDk
Dumbass. Go ahead and do some shit that will fire up the riot thugs for another round, you miss that spotlight no matter how much it burns, huh?