Tubeless Suppressor
This is pretty interesting:
So, a suppressor without a tube that is screwed together. My first thought was that, maybe, each part could be an NFA item since ATF is squirrelly when it comes to baffles and such. But there’s no way for the baffled parts to really work with anything else. And for only $99.
More from their video:
October 3rd, 2016 at 6:28 pm
Interesting concept. 22lr is pretty easy to suppress but I do wonder how that design would lend itself to other calibers.
October 3rd, 2016 at 6:39 pm
I have a little conceptual problem with this: tolerance stacking. Found this out the hard way.
Every machined part is milled within certain tolerances. Tighter tolerances require more precise machinery and more frequent replacement of parts, so there’s a cost vs quality balancing act to be made.
So, what happens when you have multiple parts, and every one is within tolerance limits, but when you put them together, unluckily, they all add up in the same direction…
And then you’re wondering why the accuracy on your boltgun just went to hell when you put the can on it, and after a few dozen shots, you take off the can and notice a smear of copper on one part of the hole in the end of the can… and that’s why your bullets were flying 50 MOA down and to the left.
October 3rd, 2016 at 7:18 pm
It looks as tubular as any other silencer. That fact that it comes into sections doesn’t make it any less tubular. We now use tubeless tires and tubeless radios, but I fail to understand how a silencer is “tubeless” unless it were to have all straight sides. Even then you can order “square tube” from the various metals suppliers.
October 3rd, 2016 at 8:46 pm
Didn’t ATF just rule that the engraving has to happen on the tube? So where does that leave it?
October 4th, 2016 at 2:54 am
Howdy, just ran across this post. I’ll address a couple of the questions.
Jailer. You’d be surprised at how the fundamentals of suppressing a .22 translate perfectly to other calibers. It lends itself very well to other calibers, Find the right variables to work with and then you’re just optimizing for a caliber or range of calibers with they’re varying factors. we’ve been doing a lot of testing that I think you all will find very interesting here in coming months.
Tirno. Correct on tolerance stacking, with good CNC’s and good qa/qc it’s a fairly small issue and easily detectable. It definitely shows more over time with pieces and tool wear etc. but when parts are assembled sequentially as they are manufactured it’s fairly negligible. Not to say that what you say isn’t a legitimate concern, in fact it is, and we’ve baked in ways to avoid it.
Lyle. You’re correct, but the point is there is no outer tube, and we prefer lathes, hence the round stock. You can use different collets etc to make other shapes like a hexagonal suppressor, but for one that isn’t doing anything except add weight, and it’s super hard on cutting tooling (or it can be) to have the interrupted cut of a hexagon on profiling tools.
Wizardpc. Think of this as a round version of the very popular Silencerco Osprey line, It’s not what inspired our design, but the basics are the same. Only we don’t use a pin to secure the baffles, the baffles are threaded together to allow for complete modularity.
Another question that will probably come up will be “Don’t these come unthreaded during firing”, and the answer is no they don’t, hand snug and you’re all set. We thought that wouldn’t be the case, infact we were designing all sorts of ways to abate that….alas testing is always the final determination between theory and fact and it turns out unaided unthreading is a non issue.
If you have anymore q’s please reach out to us on the website, I won’t actively monitor this I just wanted to chime in and help ya’ll out 🙂