Marijuana card used to deny gun rights
A medical marijuana CARD (not use) is now Second Amendment disqualification, according to a decision of the uber-liberal federal 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. In a case with no parallels, a woman who obtained the card to show support for the medical-marijuana movement — but who doesn’t use pot — has been disqualified from her constitutional rights, for possession of the plastic card. Wherever you may stand on the drug issue, even the statute itself requires drug use, not government permission-slip possession. In its decision, this Court introduced the idea that you might not be sufficiently mentally OK at times to bear arms, so summarily removing your rights is totally is fine. Whether this applies to beer, over-the-counter medicine that might cause drowsiness and any other mental evaluations was not addressed, but surely can’t be far behind in the minds of those who can come up with a decision like this, would seek any means to control the public.
Well, that strikes me as wrong.
October 5th, 2016 at 6:30 pm
We have privileges in this country, not rights.
October 5th, 2016 at 6:50 pm
Have a client with a similar problem – applied for an FFL while having a card but not using as it was protection for selling growing accoutrements in our state.
Was denied and told could reapply a year after surrendering the card so this seems to be a pretty widespread policy on ATFE’s part.
October 5th, 2016 at 8:56 pm
So the next step will be to revoke the right to arms of anyone with a prescription for a narcotic, right? Same “logic.”
October 5th, 2016 at 9:41 pm
I think this is hilarious. Fighting for the right to get high is wasteful.
October 5th, 2016 at 9:47 pm
Didn’t read the linked article so maybe this was addressed there, but how the FUCK would they know?
October 6th, 2016 at 12:08 am
It’s about control, always the control.
October 6th, 2016 at 1:36 pm
JTC,
From Reason, story by Jacob Sullum 9/1/16
“The case, Wilson v. Lynch, involves a Nevada woman, Rowan Wilson, who in 2011 tried to buy a firearm from a gun shop in Mound House, a tiny town in Lyon County, but was turned away because the owner, Frederick Hauser, knew she had recently obtained a medical marijuana registry card from the state Department of Health and Human Services.
Hauser had just received a letter from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF) that said anyone who uses marijuana as a medicine, “regardless of whether his or her State has passed legislation authorizing marijuana use for medicinal purposes,” qualifies as an “unlawful user of a controlled substance” and is therefore forbidden to buy or possess guns under 18 USC 922.
The ATF added that “if you are aware that the potential transferee is in possession of a card authorizing the possession and use of marijuana under State law, then you have ‘reasonable cause to believe’ that the person is an unlawful user of a controlled substance,” meaning “you may not transfer firearms or ammunition to the person.” Since violating that edict is a felony punishable by up to 10 years in prison, Hauser was understandably reluctant to sell Wilson a gun.”
October 6th, 2016 at 5:40 pm
“…uber-liberal federal 9th Circuit Court of Appeals.”
How did we come to refer to those who deny human rights as “liberals”? What you mean to say is “authoritarian” or “tyrannical”. “Deplorable” works too.
October 6th, 2016 at 10:00 pm
Matthew, thanks.
FFL’s have been turned into informants and agents for the state, under threat of taking their business, their freedom, their good name, AND THEIR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO advocate, promote, and provide the means for others to enoy theirs.
It’s worse now, and yes Lyle it is “liberals” who have done that, most recently with the use of EO’s to alter the definition and application of existing law, can there be any doubt that they and their judicial cohorts intend the denial of your rights?
But it’s not new and it’s not limited to said libs. For me it started soon after 9/11 when the cooperative relationships I had enjoyed for decades between my business and the atf dudes (TWO full-blown on-site record/inventory checks in 25 yrs and FFL renewals every three years by phone interview and mail) turned into a 2-agent on-site process for simple license renewal, very aggressive questioning, and admonitions delivered almost as directives to profile customers like they were terrorists and I was supplying them, way beyond the common sense screening and proper paperwork that is good business for any sensitive product or service.
Fuck that. That ’03 pain in the ass renewal process that very nearly had me reacting in ways that could have went real bad real fast was my last. In ’06 I unpinned the stack of ten FFL’s going back almost three decades of which I had been proud, and tossed ’em in the trash. Then I boxed up a shit-ton of yella forms and log books and shipped ’em off to paperwork purgatory.
That was the same ignorance and effect, treating heretofore cooperative relationships, as lining up my grandmother and little children to be felt up by blue shirted boobies at airports with no regard to rights or zeroing in on likely actual bad guys.
Thanks to George Bush and/or his out of control misguided operatives. He ain’t no liberal, but he ain’t much different. Nor are the gopes who inherited and then squandered the legacy of real conservatism that had been largely rebuilt between 1980 and 1992, eroded from then until 2000, and eroded further still post-9/11.
Buncha dumbass tyrants. But don’t call ’em deplorables Lyle; as defined and applied by the beastbitch who would make the lot of the above look like Constitutional scholars…it’s a label I wear proudly.
October 6th, 2016 at 10:01 pm
Oh yeah, rant off. Sorry Unc.