This is why you should practice drawing a gun
Watch as this guy almost puts a .45 caliber hole in his hand:
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December 9th, 2016 at 11:25 am
Yep, put your hand near the muzzle and your FINGER ON THE TRIGGER and you can blow that hand away.
And wearing gloves while shooting a 1911 cocked-n-locked don’t help any. Harder to feel the trigger.
When you draw, keep the other hand back near your chest. Keeps it away from the gun AND makes it ready to use a two handed hold. PLUS, if you trip and start to fall, it’s in the right place to help keep you from kissing the deck.
December 9th, 2016 at 11:53 am
Not to mention the muzzle covers the guy in front of him while his finger is still on the trigger. So much for the RSO, that should have been an immediate ejection from the range.
December 9th, 2016 at 12:32 pm
“Training”.
Jesus.
December 9th, 2016 at 12:51 pm
Range officers are Morons.
December 9th, 2016 at 1:51 pm
I can live without the know it all idiots telling me I “must” carry a 1911 “cocked and locked”. I have known six people who shot themselves with “combat carry” 1911’s since 1975 and know of no one who ever died from NOT carrying a round up the pipe every day. The ONLY time I would carry a one hundred year old design “cocked and locked” is if I expected imminent hostile contact. You cannot “train out” a fundamental design feature(flaw) of the 1911 and you can’t fix stupid. The video proves both. The 1911 IS NOT MODERN nor is it a Glock or Sig. People need to stop trying to make those weapons what they are not and never were. If you want a weapon “at the ready” at all times ,then you should buy a weapon designed to do that. NOT a 1911A1.
December 9th, 2016 at 2:00 pm
QUOTE: “You cannot “train out” a fundamental design feature(flaw) of the 1911 and you can’t fix stupid. The video proves both. The 1911 IS NOT MODERN nor is it a Glock or Sig.”
That’s funny. I’ve been carrying 1911’s for just over 50 years. Always cocked and locked. Did it in the Military and then in civilian Law Enforcement. Did it bare handed and with gloves on. And guess what? Still have all my fingers and never had a hole in my hand.
Don’t run your mouth and condemn something you’re either to afraid to train with or just don’t understand!
December 9th, 2016 at 2:13 pm
Ray, would you like a video of someone shooting themself with a “modern” Glock?
December 9th, 2016 at 2:51 pm
Ray, you have known 6 idiots.
Like this dolt, they had their hand on the grip, thumb safety off and finger on the trigger or the gun would NOT have fired.
Because they had a 1911 pointed at some part of their anatomy, I find it hard to see how the *gun* made them do that.
December 9th, 2016 at 2:55 pm
You have to break 2 rules – which he did, then realized it and paused a second to thank his lucky stars.
December 9th, 2016 at 3:10 pm
Why in the world that guy wasn’t immediately yanked off the range is beyond me. Letting that guy continue on the range is as inexcusable as his ND.
December 9th, 2016 at 7:15 pm
Ray, I hear/read almost weekly where folks have had NDs with Glocks, Sigs, etc. (“modern” pistols) But that video is the first time I’ve seen/heard of a ND involving a M1911A1, “a one hundred year old design”, in a long time.
A design being “old” doesn’t mean it’s crappy. Hell, older stuff is frequently better, IMHO, than these newer “improved” designs. I’ll take my Marlin 30AS, (.30-30)a late 1940’s design, over a “modern” AR-15. I consider it to be more reliable, rugged, and easier to care for. And .30-30 packs more of a punch than 5.56mm.
December 9th, 2016 at 7:21 pm
Huck: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paxk_LPmdMI&ab_channel=brkborek
What is it both of these have in common? 1911 and SERPA.
December 9th, 2016 at 7:46 pm
What training company was this? What major malfunction led them to bringing this guy onto the range with a gun that he didn’t know how to handle safely?
December 9th, 2016 at 9:05 pm
And why let him continue like nothing happened? I’ve seen people sent home for much less.
December 9th, 2016 at 9:54 pm
From Def Smith: “When you draw, keep the other hand back near your chest. Keeps it away from the gun AND makes it ready to use a two handed hold. PLUS, if you trip and start to fall, it’s in the right place to help keep you from kissing the deck.”
^^^^^^^^ THIS ALL DAY LONG. Everything else can now be deleted.
December 10th, 2016 at 5:12 am
Thanks for the link Uncle! I didn’t say that NDs didn’t happen with M1911s, I’m sure that they do. I just said that it’s been a long time since I last heard of one.
I think that guy in the video either flipped the safety off before he drew the pistol or never even flipped it on. Either way, shame on him! I never flip the safety off until the barrel is pointed downrange.
I don’t use Serpas, or any other holster that’s made out of plastic or nylon. (I consider anything made with those materials to be cheap junk) I use a leather paddle holster made by Simply Rugged for my Kobra Carry.(M1911)
December 10th, 2016 at 5:58 am
What major malfunction led them to bringing this guy onto the range with a gun that he didn’t know how to handle safely?
I’m just guessing, but I bet it involved bank account deposit slips.
December 10th, 2016 at 9:51 am
I don’t get the derp training that takes casual shooters and puts them in so-called “real life” scenarios where they must now practice walking and chewing gum, err…shooting at the same time. Or in this case, walking, drawing, targeting and shooting.
I own a range and I help state, local and even fed officers shoot better. These guys are all good shooters to begin with. I watch them. They spend nearly all their time focusing on making the little holes group closer on the paper. We are the only nearby “dynamic” place they can move, duck and shoot multiple directions but this is still maybe 5% of what they practice. Yet somehow this is the principle feature of commercial classes.
If you are a casual shooter you should run from any class that has a session like this. Not because it might be risky, but because it’s just not as useful as a coach teaching strong static shooting skills. Yeah, me standing there with a finger lightly touching a single muscle on your right hand while you dry-fire for the 50th time of the day might be boring, but it’s hella-betta than this dreck.
December 10th, 2016 at 9:55 am
To be clear, the LEOs who use my range spend 5% of their time on dynamic shooting (shooting while moving). They do it, but their primary emphasis is on the “boring” stuff – placement and timing. Whether they work patrol or undercover it’s the same.
December 10th, 2016 at 12:47 pm
You aren’t supposed to put your finger on the trigger or disengage the thumb safety until your sights are on target, and you also are not supposed to put your hand in front of the muzzle. This would have been a near miss with any firearm, let’s not get into the GLOCK! vs. 1911 stuff again. P.S. your gun sucks, you chose the wrong caliber, and you are most definitely holding it wrong.
December 13th, 2016 at 12:09 am
Patrick:
“the LEOs who use my range spend 5% of their time on dynamic shooting (shooting while moving).”
Their training is wrong in this.
What you are relating is “square range mentality”. It’s easy to grade someones ability in that sort of environment. Badge toters tend not to be shooters. Mostly they dislike, or hate, it. Easy to look bad while learning or practicing to shoot in a dynamic environment. Doing so little of it gives them an automatic excuse for not doing it well.
Unless you are hunkered down behind some sort of armor, people move. They move to avoid getting hit, and to move to cover, or to get a better angle on their opponent. Pick any two, or all three. LOOK AT ANY SHOOTING VIDEO! NO ONE stands still! Wouldn’t YOU want to be very good at moving and shooting at moving targets?
December 13th, 2016 at 8:45 pm
If this guy is drawing a 1911 that is “cocked and locked” what was his hand doing down there in the first place?
Isn’t that the point of it, to be able to draw a “safe” firearm with one hand and disengage the safety without the need of the other hand, get on target and pull the trigger, all without needing the other hand?
I’m sure not an expert, or even close at this, but unless this guy was racking the slide there is no reason his other hand should have been anywhere near the gun.
But I couldn’t see from video just what he was doing in the moment just before the shot.