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1. Lyle Says:
   November 20th, 2017 at 8:06 pm

   Does it come with a nation-wide network of battery swap stations, or do you charge it off of your lap-top’s USB port?

   “Racing to overcome the challenges of carbon dioxide and soot pollution”

   Uh huh, and what about battery manufacturing and disposal pollution, to say nothing of the additional electricity generation capacity required?

   And carbon dioxide isn’t pollution. It’s plant food.

   Oh, and you’re welcome. I’m subsidizing that shit. But no; you’re really not welcome– It was coerced from me. So actually; fuck you.

2. wizardpc Says:
   November 20th, 2017 at 8:26 pm

   The semi can only go 500 miles between charges. Seems awfully short

3. Jeff the Baptist Says:
   November 20th, 2017 at 8:26 pm

   I’ll be more impressed when they can actually manufacture the cars they’re already selling. Although the roadster might be a good idea because they can bring it out at the boutique production levels they are more used to.

4. B Says:
   November 20th, 2017 at 10:58 pm

   I will believe it when it happens. When they actually, you know, PRODUCE them in more than show level quantities.

   Nd when they can do it without taxpayers paying a bundle for each one they”sell in subsidies.

5. JTC Says:
   November 21st, 2017 at 12:32 am

   Some analysts think the truck and hotrod are an electric shark-jump. And everything Lyle says apply just as they have for all of the lies about EV’s.

6. Ravenwood Says:
   November 21st, 2017 at 8:47 am

   Until they can get a plane load of people or cargo off the ground using electricity, fossil fuels aren’t going anywhere.

7. Lyford Says:
   November 21st, 2017 at 11:01 am

   The first gasoline automobiles didn’t look so good compared with steam or electric. Automobiles seemed impractical when everyone was used to horse technology and infrastructure.

   It’s not all or nothing. Electrics make sense for applications where energy per unit weight or per unit volume is less important. Fossil fuels will continue to dominate where those things are critical.

8. Nomen Nescio Says:
   November 21st, 2017 at 2:52 pm

   i’ve been wondering why mail trucks and delivery trucks haven’t gone either electric or hybrid yet. at first glance it looks like that should be a near-ideal application; generally slow moving, little to no highway traffic, lots of stop and go for regenerative braking to use, low to middling cargo loads, and they spend every night in the same parking lot where they could be recharged. maybe there’s some reason why these aren’t low-hanging fruit, but if so i don’t know what it would be.

9. emdfl Says:
   November 21st, 2017 at 8:43 pm

   Just what the country needs; another taxpayer-subsidized coal-powered car.

10. JTC Says:
    November 21st, 2017 at 9:57 pm

    @Nomen Nescio, it ain’t for lack of trying, but as with most things gov, mostly a series of boondoggles.

    https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-history/electric-vehicles.pdf

    The wedge-shaped offering from Commuter Vehicles of Sebring FL in 1980 (bottom of pg 3) was built in a warehouse at the old military airfield/airport/race track here and an acquaintance of mine who was a former golf cart builder was the head shop guy. When the contract fell apart, remaining vehicles both completed and partial along with shit-tons of motors and parts, languished there for a few years until they had a liquidation auction in ’87 or ’88. For some dumb reason I bought a few for a couple hundred bucks (originally 6 or 8 G’s apiece). I had a guy with a heavy equipment biz who also bought several, haul them and store them in his yard until finally I just gave them to him for accrued rent.

    Sad story that probably has repeated itself similarly with each ill-conceived effort. And probably will again when lib-tards, tree-huggers, and con-men get another chance, convinced that this time the same flawed premise and methods will yield different results. Insert something about the definition of insanity here.

11. Will Says:
    November 21st, 2017 at 10:03 pm

    Nomen Nescio:

    no .gov subsidies for moving packages, only for people. Plus, the costs would be prohibitive. 100k+ miles in a year is typical of a cargo truck, irregardless of size. That is a heck of a lot of batteries to buy and dispose.

    In reality, until a new electrical storage system comes on line, electric vehicles will remain niche players.

    IBM was supposed to have a new capacitor ready for the market by now, but I haven’t heard anything about it for some years. Carbon nano-tube, able to charge in seconds to minutes, depending on size. I guess they can’t figure out how to manufacture it.

12. mikee Says:
    November 21st, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    Electric vehicles are but one step away from the actual future of transportation: Fusion drives, just like in Back To The Future II.

13. JK Brown Says:
    November 22nd, 2017 at 2:00 am

    I’m still waiting for a diesel-electric pickup. Good power for towing, electric for tooling around town. Built-in generator for the job or camp site.

    Until then, what niche do EVs fill? Just plant some okra to gobble up the CO2 and global warming from your internal combustion engine.

    Most people who aren’t car people probably don’t know that the EPA itself awards the designation, Partial Zero Emissions Vehicle (PZEV), to internal combustion engines powering numerous currently-in-production cars. These are not electric cars or even hybrid cars. They are simply cars with internal combustion engines that emit so little in the way of harmful effluents that the regulatory Grand Inquisitor itself — the EPA — classifies them officially as Partial Zero Emissions Vehicles.

    And the rest — the ones that don’t quite meet the PZEV bar — are photo-finish close. The difference is measurable in terms of perhaps 1 percent — usually a fraction of 1 percent — PZEV vs. the not-quite-PZEV.

    There is no such beast as a new car that “pollutes” — if that word is understood to mean what it ought to mean. That is to say, what it once meant.

14. TS Says:
    November 22nd, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    My car is a Zero Emissions Vehicle when parked. That is just as accurate as calling an EV “zero emissions”.

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