The house passes reciprocity. Every body freak out.
Ah, the PSH is flowing. And I’m smiling.
First up, Governor Cuomo:
The appalling House vote for concealed carry reciprocity puts all New Yorkers at risk. This legislation would let individuals from out-of-state convicted of certain crimes carry hidden, loaded weapons in New York, in violation of New York’s much better, safer law. Only the NRA could propose something so ill-considered, dangerous and vile.
Lies in bold. Next, we have Bob Menendez (D-Ranged) threatening to break the law by unlawfully arresting those who would legally carry in his state.
And the MA AG has a whopper:
Reciprocity may be next deadly loophole in our nations gun laws
Look here, Sparky, I don’t have a fancy law degree not is profession in the law, like you. But a law is not a loophole.
Ah, the sweet, sweet tears.
December 11th, 2017 at 6:54 pm
So here in Texas a while back we had a law allowing carrying of a loaded weapon while traveling. So folks would put their revolver or Glock in the truck console of car glove compartment when going into Houston on the weekends, because they watched COPS. And the Houston DA had the Houston police arrest every traffic stop that found the owner with a loaded gun in the car.
The cases would go to trial, at great expense to the accused for lawyers, and the “affirmative defense” that what was done was perfectly legal would be offered, and the judge would then dismiss the case, after payment of court costs. The process was the punishment.
So the Texas Legislature rewrote the law making it clear that the carrying of loaded firearms in personal vehicles was legal. And subsequently they made it clear that guns in cars in employer’s parking lots was legal, too.
This law if passed will go through similar iterations of punitive abuse by local and state authorities until it is written so clearly that even Governor Cuomo can’t misunderstand it.
December 11th, 2017 at 7:19 pm
mikee, one big difference is this bill allows anyone wrongly persecuted to sue for both attorney fees and damages.
One other thing it provided that I haven’t seen elsewhere is that it orders several fed agencies to not restrict carry, including the jerks over at the army corps of engineers.
December 11th, 2017 at 7:30 pm
“This law if passed will go through similar iterations of punitive abuse by local and state authorities until it is written so clearly that even Governor Cuomo can’t misunderstand it.
Cuomo,Healy,Menendez, et al already understand it. They’re just hoping no one catches up to their lies.
December 11th, 2017 at 7:47 pm
When this passes, there will be a small amount of cases where someone who did what the anti-civil-rights crowd said would be legal under the new law, BUT ACTUALLY ISN’T.
The defense may present evidence that public statements said by elected officials, who are in the position to know what is true and not true or at least receive competent advice, created ambiguity about the law, which their client then misguidedly took as fact and leniency is warranted.
The prosecution should then stack up a bunch of expert witnesses who are prepared to testify under oath that the public officials in question are not liars, as liars at least pay homage to the truth by knowing what it is and intentionally deceiving. Instead, the public officials are bullshit artists, who don’t care what is factual and non-factual, but know what they want and will say anything they think will get them there.
December 11th, 2017 at 10:57 pm
The MA AG Healey and MA Supreme Judicial Court is guaranteed to ignore the law the same way they’ve ignored SCotUS’ ruling in Caetano v. Massachusetts.
The SJC is proud to declare the US Constitution void where prohibited by MA law and AG Healey (she is one deranged woman) is fond of ‘reinterpreting’ laws and regulation to ban this or that by fiat and create new powers for herself from whole cloth.
December 11th, 2017 at 11:03 pm
Yep, it’s going to be interesting… And I WILL be carrying when I go to CA to visit the kids.
December 12th, 2017 at 12:44 am
https://youtu.be/_5qrwbkmlEk
December 12th, 2017 at 2:21 am
Yeah, I’m not prepared to bask in the warm glow of “victory” just yet. And won’t the Sentate put in their own amendments?
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-12-11/nra-republican-backed-bill-makes-it-easier-feds-disarm-citizens
By the time this passes, if it ever does, don’t be so sure you’ll like it any better than what’s described in that link.
When liberty wins, the legal word count drops. Things get repealed, not added, federal entities end up with less of your money, not more, they keep fewer and smaller lists and they have less influence in your life. This bill does none of those things. Just keep that in the back of your mind, for later. No need to agree with it just yet.
December 12th, 2017 at 2:09 pm
If Reciprocity is enacted and slave State officials or agents violate it, then this current Federal law would apply:
Section 242 of Title 18 makes it a crime for a person acting under color of any law to willfully deprive a person of a right or privilege protected by the Constitution or laws of the United States.
For the purpose of Section 242, acts under “color of law” include acts not only done by federal, state, or local officials within the their lawful authority, but also acts done beyond the bounds of that official’s lawful authority, if the acts are done while the official is purporting to or pretending to act in the performance of his/her official duties. Persons acting under color of law within the meaning of this statute include police officers, prisons guards and other law enforcement officials, as well as judges, care providers in public health facilities, and others who are acting as public officials. It is not necessary that the crime be motivated by animus toward the race, color, religion, sex, handicap, familial status or national origin of the victim.
The offense is punishable by a range of imprisonment up to a life term, or the death penalty, depending upon the circumstances of the crime, and the resulting injury, if any.