My Nephew has a Springfield Armory XD that’s chambered for .357 SIG and it’s pretty fun to shoot. It seems to me like it’d be a decent defense pistol. However, it’s pretty hard finding ammo for it.
I converted my Glock 22 to 357 Sig. The ballistics past 50 yards are superior. Better energy than 40 Shorty, approaches 10mm in the lighter loads, MUCH easier to shoot.
A carbine in 357 Sig would be interesting, probably get the 125gr pill up to 650-700 #/’ ME.
I used it in IDPA competitions, and the recoil was mild, with almost no muzzle flip. It made me the second shot much easier and faster. I liked shooting it more than 9mm, 40, or 45 in competition for just that reason.
When it first came out, one use was to make everyone else at the indoor range think, “What the hell was that?” when it was fired. The round produces a right snappy boom, very different sounding from other semiauto cartridges.
In the real world defense shootings, all of what might be considered “service pistol cartridges” are the same, with a teeny weeny advantage going to the 357 Magnum. The 357 Sig comes close, and so it would work just like all the others (380, 9 Para, 40, 45) to within an indistinguishable margin. Defeating your basic body armor is another question, but the Sig round doesn’t have what it takes there either. So unless you’re carrying a 460 Smith or a Casull or Linebaugh etc., pick the gun you like, shut up about its “stopping power” , go practice, and learn something about anatomy in three dimensions.
Anecdotal, but anecdotal and real; I’ve killed deer with a 44 cap and ball revolver, a 50 cal muzzleloader with more than three times the powder as the pistol and three times the barrel length, and a 280 Remington rifle with full house loads and hollowpoints. All just as dead, and just as quick within a second or two, shot placement alone determining the speed of incapacitation.
Also; most people shot from a pistol live to talk about it, and most crimes stopped using pistols don’t involve actually firing the pistol, so using a pistol to stop a crime in progress is something of a different metric.
So totally right! I found a Calico chambered in 22 WMR. I can shoot some one 72 times and I can almost manage the recoil. Sometimes the bullet almost travels 11 inches in wet phone books! Sure I have a questionable plastic gun, and I must train with my finger wrapped over the slide to avoid a ND, but I don’t have to worry about practice to shoot a cartridge doing more work. Besides all you guys shooting all those scary loud guns are just compensating. After all, just read it on the internets.
August 27th, 2018 at 6:31 pm
My Nephew has a Springfield Armory XD that’s chambered for .357 SIG and it’s pretty fun to shoot. It seems to me like it’d be a decent defense pistol. However, it’s pretty hard finding ammo for it.
August 27th, 2018 at 7:33 pm
I converted my Glock 22 to 357 Sig. The ballistics past 50 yards are superior. Better energy than 40 Shorty, approaches 10mm in the lighter loads, MUCH easier to shoot.
A carbine in 357 Sig would be interesting, probably get the 125gr pill up to 650-700 #/’ ME.
August 27th, 2018 at 8:19 pm
I used it in IDPA competitions, and the recoil was mild, with almost no muzzle flip. It made me the second shot much easier and faster. I liked shooting it more than 9mm, 40, or 45 in competition for just that reason.
August 28th, 2018 at 3:57 pm
When it first came out, one use was to make everyone else at the indoor range think, “What the hell was that?” when it was fired. The round produces a right snappy boom, very different sounding from other semiauto cartridges.
August 28th, 2018 at 6:26 pm
In the real world defense shootings, all of what might be considered “service pistol cartridges” are the same, with a teeny weeny advantage going to the 357 Magnum. The 357 Sig comes close, and so it would work just like all the others (380, 9 Para, 40, 45) to within an indistinguishable margin. Defeating your basic body armor is another question, but the Sig round doesn’t have what it takes there either. So unless you’re carrying a 460 Smith or a Casull or Linebaugh etc., pick the gun you like, shut up about its “stopping power” , go practice, and learn something about anatomy in three dimensions.
Anecdotal, but anecdotal and real; I’ve killed deer with a 44 cap and ball revolver, a 50 cal muzzleloader with more than three times the powder as the pistol and three times the barrel length, and a 280 Remington rifle with full house loads and hollowpoints. All just as dead, and just as quick within a second or two, shot placement alone determining the speed of incapacitation.
Also; most people shot from a pistol live to talk about it, and most crimes stopped using pistols don’t involve actually firing the pistol, so using a pistol to stop a crime in progress is something of a different metric.
August 28th, 2018 at 8:04 pm
mikee, you can get the same effect at a much lower cost with a CZ-52 in 7.62 Tokarev.
August 29th, 2018 at 11:15 am
The 1st police agency to adopt the cartridge is now leaving it. DSP went to 357 Sig back in, IIRC 1996. They’re going to 9mm now.
August 29th, 2018 at 11:21 am
So totally right! I found a Calico chambered in 22 WMR. I can shoot some one 72 times and I can almost manage the recoil. Sometimes the bullet almost travels 11 inches in wet phone books! Sure I have a questionable plastic gun, and I must train with my finger wrapped over the slide to avoid a ND, but I don’t have to worry about practice to shoot a cartridge doing more work. Besides all you guys shooting all those scary loud guns are just compensating. After all, just read it on the internets.