Just because you can vote straight party, it doesn’t mean you have to. You can still split your vote any way you want, the way you were doing before.
In any event, I don’t see it as a roadblock to Libertarian voters. I see it as a way to try to help them. Checking just one box on the ballot is all the attention and focus they’re capable of.
@nk, closed primary states such as here in the fla allow only “straight party” votes for candidates in your their party of registration, and that apparently is what unc is saying happened here, only registered L’s in NM (all couple dozen of them) could cast their primary vote for GJ. Excluded me too as a registered I from getting my vote in for my preferred R the other day….there are defensible reasons for that system but it is still a pain for non-aligned I’s like me and mis-aligned L’s like…well, all of ’em.
@JTC: So you’re saying that the change applies to who you can vote for in the primary?
In that case, I’m not sure I see any problem with it: I don’t want someone registered to another party to have a part in deciding which candidate will represent my party in the general election.
HSR47, that’s the defensible reason part…ostensibly prevents cross-party obstruction.
Problem is with the closed primary system like here in Fla those who prefer to be non-aligned and not to slap a label on themselves (who wants to be lumped with R’s like dead traitor McCain?) and register as independent don’t get to vote at all in primaries. And with the “straight” system as now in NM those who register with any party can vote only for candidates from that party…hence disillusioned D’s and R’s can’t flock to join Unc in boosting L’s etc.
Double edged sword for sure, and subject to the tactical abuse that is apparent in the NM link.
Certainly NO local or state funds should be used for elections that are limited to political parties. If Democrats and Republicans want to have their own exclusive elections, then they should pay for them. Anyway, what is a Democrat? What is a Republican?
I am a registered R for the *sole* purpose of voting in primaries. The Is not just picking one is one if the reason the Ds and (to a lesser extent) the Rs can be more extreme. It is also a major reason people spend so much time in office: a shallow bench and a few orimary challengers.
Please, to every I: stop being indecisive and either pick a party and try it moderate or fix it OR create a third party. Your lack of engagement is part of the damn problem!
@Matt, you make some good points. But certainly no government should favor political parties in the elections they hold at taxpayer expense. Here in Tennessee, we aren’t required to register with a party, but only choose which part primary in which we are voting on any given election.
So, mandatory party affiliation…because that has worked so well throughout history yes?
Sorry, but “extreme” is the only thing that will drain the swamp and starve out the rinos who have appropriated the R party and made it D Lite.
And FWIW, the Republican party did more in 2016 to obstruct the election of DJT than the progs who at least were honest enough to register as D’s, and is NOT what got him elected…guess what did?
August 30th, 2018 at 5:25 pm
I think straight party voting is asinine but Gary “bake the cake” Johnson is not a selling point for getting rid of it.
August 30th, 2018 at 9:03 pm
Sorry Unc, GJ and for that matter the big L party itself, thwart their damnselves.
August 30th, 2018 at 10:15 pm
Torn. Johnson is a giant douche, but on the other hand, it is BS.
Can they both lose?
August 30th, 2018 at 10:47 pm
GJ really takes the “Liberty” out of Libertarian.
August 31st, 2018 at 8:59 am
Just because you can vote straight party, it doesn’t mean you have to. You can still split your vote any way you want, the way you were doing before.
In any event, I don’t see it as a roadblock to Libertarian voters. I see it as a way to try to help them. Checking just one box on the ballot is all the attention and focus they’re capable of.
August 31st, 2018 at 11:47 am
@nk, closed primary states such as here in the fla allow only “straight party” votes for candidates in your their party of registration, and that apparently is what unc is saying happened here, only registered L’s in NM (all couple dozen of them) could cast their primary vote for GJ. Excluded me too as a registered I from getting my vote in for my preferred R the other day….there are defensible reasons for that system but it is still a pain for non-aligned I’s like me and mis-aligned L’s like…well, all of ’em.
September 1st, 2018 at 5:30 pm
@JTC: So you’re saying that the change applies to who you can vote for in the primary?
In that case, I’m not sure I see any problem with it: I don’t want someone registered to another party to have a part in deciding which candidate will represent my party in the general election.
September 1st, 2018 at 6:14 pm
HSR47, that’s the defensible reason part…ostensibly prevents cross-party obstruction.
Problem is with the closed primary system like here in Fla those who prefer to be non-aligned and not to slap a label on themselves (who wants to be lumped with R’s like dead traitor McCain?) and register as independent don’t get to vote at all in primaries. And with the “straight” system as now in NM those who register with any party can vote only for candidates from that party…hence disillusioned D’s and R’s can’t flock to join Unc in boosting L’s etc.
Double edged sword for sure, and subject to the tactical abuse that is apparent in the NM link.
September 2nd, 2018 at 8:52 am
Certainly NO local or state funds should be used for elections that are limited to political parties. If Democrats and Republicans want to have their own exclusive elections, then they should pay for them. Anyway, what is a Democrat? What is a Republican?
September 2nd, 2018 at 4:29 pm
I am a registered R for the *sole* purpose of voting in primaries. The Is not just picking one is one if the reason the Ds and (to a lesser extent) the Rs can be more extreme. It is also a major reason people spend so much time in office: a shallow bench and a few orimary challengers.
Please, to every I: stop being indecisive and either pick a party and try it moderate or fix it OR create a third party. Your lack of engagement is part of the damn problem!
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:22 pm
@Matt, you make some good points. But certainly no government should favor political parties in the elections they hold at taxpayer expense. Here in Tennessee, we aren’t required to register with a party, but only choose which part primary in which we are voting on any given election.
September 2nd, 2018 at 9:51 pm
Matt W,
So, mandatory party affiliation…because that has worked so well throughout history yes?
Sorry, but “extreme” is the only thing that will drain the swamp and starve out the rinos who have appropriated the R party and made it D Lite.
And FWIW, the Republican party did more in 2016 to obstruct the election of DJT than the progs who at least were honest enough to register as D’s, and is NOT what got him elected…guess what did?