You’re not voting your way out of this
Instead of what we had in our first Civil War which was state against state over a specific ideal, what we have now is urban versus rural and I don’t think the urbans realize just how many rurals there are. The rurals do not wish to be controlled by the urbans. And we will not put up with it if they try to impose their will on us.
We shall see.
October 1st, 2018 at 7:15 pm
Show me a historical example where a moderate “normal” population took up arms to defend people two towns over – or even on their own street – from Leftist violence. Where Norm the accountant grabs his gun to defend the liberty of some random guy who had his house burned for flying the wrong flag. Or got fired for his beliefs.
Leftists know violence, have experience using violence (and more importantly, the threat of violence) against masses of normal people to effect real political change. They devoted a whole century to its practice and perfection.
Ya know what? We know the playbook and watch it play out the same way. It still works. Pretty near every time.
Hate to be the realist, but in mass violent civil action the always Left wins. They have the experience and the mass of people willing to do harm to anyone – literally anyone – to get what they want.
Normals don’t fight until it is too late. Then we burn.
I don’t pretend to have the solution. I just don’t look forward to any form of mass violence. I got kids to protect and feed. There won’t be any happy endings in the Second American Civil War it seems some people are itching to fight.
I think some people stay home and oil up their guns instead of voting. They figure they’ll be OK no matter what.
Your answer to avoiding a conflict is to avoid the conflict. Deny them the institutional power to protect their violence. Vote.
October 2nd, 2018 at 1:41 pm
> Patrick: “Show historical example where population took up arms to defend from Leftist violence.”
Athens, Tennessee
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Athens
> Patrick: “Vote.”
“If voting changed anything, they’d make it illegal”
– Emma Goldman.
“Tyrants … can’t ever be voted out of existence”
– Larken Rose.
“Don’t Vote: It Just Encourages the Bastards”
– acclaimed humorist P. J. O’Rourke.
And, from my own personal experience with voting:
I was elected ‘Constable’ in my area; the position required I produce a $1000 ‘Performance Bond’. Can anybody say, ‘Poll Tax’? All for an unpaid position, with no salary, no insurance, no indemnification, that controlled NO public moneys nor property, had no subordinates, and I had to supply my own gun and vehicle. I was forced to resign before being sworn-in.
I’ll never step into a voting booth again
[said with voice of ‘Quint’, from “Jaws”].
October 2nd, 2018 at 1:58 pm
Blue counties have much more power than Red counties. The only power Red county people have is strikes like not delivering food to cities. But, if it comes to that it means there is a democrat president and he will have the military take over trucking as well as all forms of industrial production that is in the hands of Red counties.
Just for though. If this civil war stuff starts to happen states will again be pitted against each other. Blue States and Red States. It is the only hope of Red counties to get their states for form militias. And most importantly, to get rural areas in Red States to join them. Blockades are the only real defense against Blue state regions and the US military.
October 2nd, 2018 at 10:08 pm
The error of Kevin and most others in this kind of comparison is in accepting as a given that “…what we had in our first Civil War was state against state over a specific ideal”. Not surprising after 150 years of being innoculated with a created
and false history.
There is actually far more parallel between then and now once you get past the “Republican” vs. “Democrat” thing that is not just irrelevant but actually inverted as to any application to today’s political context.
Urban vs. Rural? Consider the despicable grand plan of the First Rino to take and control the productive assets of the rural South to feed and supply the hungry and teeming cities of the north, with a willingness to commit full-on genocide against a sovereign nation, sacrificing thousands of his own in the process, using the cruel pretense of “freeing slaves” to obtain the financial and immoral support of his patrons…all the while writing the truth in his letters to confidants that he didn’t give a rat’s ass about slaves as long as he could maintain control and power over all. Sound familiar?
Today’s leftists pit race against race, class against class, man against woman, straight against gay and yes, urban against rural to force obedience to their rules and worship of their elites and have convinced groups like antifa, anti-LE, and minority special interests to be their expendable foot soldiers and enforcers…and virtually all of media to promote their agenda of divide and conquer. Then it was regional, today it is cultural…the epithet of the ignernt southerner evolved to the bitter clinger, but the agenda of power and control is the same.
Will it come to armed conflict and a defacto secession? The geography would be problematic this go ’round, as is the urban/rural divide, but yeah it might. The important lesson of history between then and now is that the pretexts and methods of elites are not limited by the honor and morals that restrain us, whether the letter after the name is R, D, or HRM.
I add that last one because we can hearken back much further than the conflict of the 1860’s and realize that the one of the 1770’s was much the same. Tea was to the RW as slavery was to the CW, and as classism/sexism/racism/regionalism will be to the coming conflict whatever we may call it.
If we fail to learn from history -again-, we are doomed to repeat it -again-…if we survive.