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June 13th, 2019 at 6:13 pm
Yes, you can always have it with you in your pocket (except where its prohibited, right).
June 13th, 2019 at 7:48 pm
Similar in size but chambered in 9 mm Luger: the Bond Arms XR9 (formerly Boberg, but apparently made better by Bond).
June 13th, 2019 at 10:06 pm
Used to be a big fan of the cartridge because the convenience of the small packages that launch them made them less likely to be left at home. But the shrinking in size and weight of tools chambered for its bigger brother 9mm, just about renders it obsolete for most intents and purposes.
June 14th, 2019 at 5:07 am
With JTC, back before KT was KT, I owned a Grendel P-12. That little thing kicked like a .357, and left me with a flinch that I still have to watch out for. I couldn’t shoot a pellet gun without jerking my shot to the left. Carry a nine, or even a .45, and dress around it. Your ass isn’t as pretty as you think it is. Even in jeans.
June 14th, 2019 at 9:40 am
Jerry, one reason I like the XR9 is that its unusual action cuts the recoil substantially. I can shoot +P 9mm from that pocket pistol without having my hand hurt after 3 shots. The barrel is an inch longer than any other gun with that size frame.
June 14th, 2019 at 9:04 pm
He forgets to mention or forgot about the huge study that examined actual stopping power in the field. The study found that ANY centerfire caliber was as good (more like as bad) as any other in stopping a threat. Forget rules of thumb, gelatin penetration tests, and seemingly reasonable analysis. The only thing significantly worse than pistol caliber ammo was rimfire ammo. Centerfire rifles on the other hand…
June 15th, 2019 at 10:22 am
“Centerfire rifles on the other hand…”
Yes, but that straight-legged pocket carry is a bitch.
June 17th, 2019 at 6:59 am
I love my M&P Bodyguard .380 with the laser sight. Carried that in a pocket holster for years until my wife stole it from me.
So then I bought a Sig P365. It’s a tad bigger, but I’m a big guy with big hands and big pockets. Also it holds 12+1 rounds of 9mm with a pinky extender on the magazine and still fits into my jeans or shorts pockets with no notice (thanks to my Wild Bill Concealment pocket holster).
June 17th, 2019 at 11:08 pm
I too loved the BG w/CT, what a neat little package.
Carried one some, and sold a crap-ton of them when they went on promo so that the laser was pretty much free.
Then again, I never had to (thank God and knock wood) had to shoot anybody with one, and I think if I had my fondness would be diminished if not turned to outright hatred. And I actually have a nagging guilt for those many I actively recommended; same for the LCP’s. Hope against hope that those I sold them too will be as careful/lucky as me in avoiding engagement in lethal combat with an anemic tool.
June 17th, 2019 at 11:46 pm
https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7866
That’s the most interesting study I’ve seen regarding stopping power. No need to feel guilty having sold .380 pistols.
June 18th, 2019 at 6:48 am
JTC, the Bodyguard is a great gun and shoots just fine, though I also upgraded the trigger to remove some of the travel. I personally prefer the Sig P365 because you get more 9mm rounds while sacrificing just a little bit of size. But then it’s also about $100-200 more.