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The sky is still falling

In an update to the FN Pistol non-controversy, the Brady Campaign has issued a press release urging congress to ban the gun. Nevermind that the gun isn’t available to the public, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms notes that the round is not armor piercing.

The anti-gunners always need a bogeyman, even if they must invent it.

Update: Apparently, someone from the Brady Campaign reports that they purchased one which I find odd. The FN page (which is now gone but here’s a google cache) says the pistol is for military and law enforcement only.

Update 2: Apparently, these are available for sale to the public. Where do I get one?

11 Responses to “The sky is still falling”

  1. FreedomSight Says:

    […] > Thu, Jan 27, 2005

    FN’s New Pistol Sure Has the Bradys Wound Up

    Say Uncle got the jump on me WRT another press release from the Brady Gun […]

  2. Nate Says:

    Are you sure it’s not available to the public? I could have sworn I saw a guy buying one at Clark Brothers’ in VA. (This was before that darn Clinton gun-ban expired, and 10 rounds of 5.7 doesn’t give me warm and fuzzies–I’ll take the .45, thankyouverymuch) but I could have sworn it was the FN FiveseveN. Was it available at one point? Or am I just crazy/stupid?

  3. SayUncle Says:

    Odd. I went back to the FN webpage which said the FN was for police only and it’s now gone

    I assumed it never had been based on that it never had been. Here’s the google cache of the page which says:

    Suggested Price
    (Law Enforcement agencies only- 5.7 x 28 caliber weapons are not available to the general public)
    Five-seveN D.A.: $585 Available!
    Five-seveN D.A.N.S: $702 Available Mid 2001

  4. Dennis Says:

    The bottom paragraph of the press release says that the Brady Campaign bought one “a Virginia gun dealer and test-fired it.” Hmmmm.

  5. Addison Says:

    CDNN had them for sale in the last catalog I got from them.

  6. Heartless Libertarian Says:

    Did anyone else notice the mention of depleted uranium pistol rounds in the BATFE definition of armor piercing?

    While I’m sure they would do well at that task, is there, anywhere in the world, a pistol round made from DU?

    AFAIK, the smallest DU round is the 25mm APFSDSDU round for the M242 Bushmaster chaingun.

  7. Marc Says:

    Buy a 1911 in .38 Super and make a wildcat .22/.38 Super. A barrel, reamer and dies is all you’d need. Oh, AND some load development.

  8. jed Says:

    As to “LEO sale only”, FN can make that statement all they want. Once a gun has gone into private hands, it can be legally sold to anyone in the U.S., under whatever state/fed laws exist. So FN can make a contractual requirement with their distributors, who can make a contractual requirement with their dealer customers. None of that restricts private sales. And maybe that VA dealer got it through a channel without that contractual restriction, or just decided it was crap and ignored it.

    The ammo is a different story. Sorry, can’t find the reference right now, but after the last Brady PR on the Five-SeveN, one thing I read mentioned that the performance cited was specifically for the SS190 Ball round, which is a steel penetrator and not avaiable to U.S. citizens, due to ATF regulations. I’m not expert on ATF regs WRT AP classifications, so consider the above hearsay. Anyways, non-AP rounds, IIRC, are legal and available.

    For the specs on the Five-SeveN, check out RemTek.

    Also, ever wonder if maybe the Brady Bunch has somebody with an FFL? That’d get around the “general public” proscription, if there is one (which, AFAIK, there isn’t, in an ATF sense).

  9. Addison Says:

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976483141.htm

    http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976483141.htm

    Looking at CDNN, I don’t see any more there.

  10. Les Jones Says:

    Uncle: Coal Creek Armory has one for sale. I wish they had one for rent.

  11. Goldtop Says:

    I’ve seen FN57s at two different gun shops here in the People’s Republic of Maryland. One was selling, once he managed to get an omega lock for the barrel (gun lock required by law), and the other was not able to sell – no shell casings (also required by MD law).

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