In an update, it looks like it’s now time for the comment period to the attempt to justify banning import of certain shotguns. You can email them at shotgunstudy@atf.gov.
I would think their resources are better spent, you know, getting Mexico under control.
He’s still pushing the administration for answers regarding ATF sending guns to Mexico.
From David Hardy, the spin on the ATF allowing guns to travel into Mexico:
Spin: the fact that the agency allowed 1,700 guns to go to drug cartels proves they need more money and more laws to enforce.
A money and power grab. Even if they have to cheat for it.
He states he didn’t approve of the operation. But will he actually do anything about it? Will these, well, criminal activities have any consequences for those responsible? Probably not.
That’s why Jaquez tells CBS News he was so alarmed to hear his own agency may have done the opposite: encouraged U.S. gun dealers to sell to suspected traffickers for Mexico’s drug cartels. Apparently, ATF hoped that letting weapons “walk” onto the street – to see where they’d end up – would help them take down a cartel.
Look. Another bill. Like we’ve had before. I guess the guns in Mexico thing could help this time.
Interesting guide, at the ATF site. I note that there’s not pretty little picture of a handgun with vertical grip.
Authorities say they were not told about guns being walked into their country. Of course not.
ATF raid in border town gets police chief and mayor on gun charges. If I were those two, I’d just make up a bogus story about how it was all part of an elaborate sting to smuggle guns into Mexico and then catch the bad guys later.
Holder questioned in appropriation hearings about ATF smuggling guns into Mexico. He’s not a fan.
ATF lets 717 firearms go. Only recovers 123.
Mexican politician calls for extradition of agents involved.
Quite a bit going on regarding he Worst Scandal That You Haven’t Heard About. Well, not you. You follow the gun issue. But a lot of folks have not.
The Washington Post resorts to stupidity and says that ATF has no choice due weak gun laws. And, I shit you not, blames “the gun lobby”. Idiot.
More on that here, plus screeching from the idiots at the SPLC.
NRA calls for expedited hearings into ATF allowing guns into Mexico.
Tam: In the Mexican government’s defense, at least their cops are on the take and not doing it as a matter of agency policy.
ATF and DOJ are in full on damage control mode. Don’t burn down a church or something this time.
Legislators from all of Mexico’s three major parties in congress are calling for a joint U.S.-Mexico working group to examine accusations that U.S. federal agents allowed hundreds of guns to flow into Mexico.
Been going on since 2008, which, IIRC, is about the time press started parroting the Mexican gun canard. Checking archives, looks like the canard started in October 2007.
Senator Grassley calls for independent investigation of ATF.
So says an ATF agent. Yeah, it’s the same reference as below but I thought that warranted a separate post.
ATF actually has the balls to ask for more funding in light of their recent colossal screw up. If my presumptions are correct, they were doing this to get more money. And now that they royally screwed it up, that’s another reason to ask for money.
Doing dangerous things is apparently win/win for them.
Apparently, that was the ATF’s codename for their plan to let guns into Mexico.
If a NICS check doesn’t come back, well, then it’s not instant. And, apparently, the FFL has discretion on whether or not to initiate the sale. Except that, someone claims, ATF tells the dealer they have no discretion, even though this goes against their own guide to regulations. Fits right in with ATF’s policy of making it up as they go along.
The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) will ask a multi-disciplinary panel of law enforcement professionals to review the bureau’s current firearms trafficking strategies employed by field division managers and special agents. This review will enable ATF to maximize its effectiveness when undertaking complex firearms trafficking investigations and prosecutions. It will support the goals of ATF to stem the illegal flow of firearms to Mexico and combat firearms trafficking in the United States.
Ok, I’ll start. Uhm, don’t arm Mexican drug runners.
A look at why. I tend to think it’s the empire building. Create a problem, be the solution, and get funding.
My bigger worry is that ATF, in their pursuit of good PR, will do something stupid and dangerous.
More on their internal PR memo from CBS. Or you could have not been negligent.
There were rumors that the border agent that was killed had a bean bag gun. The government denied those rumors. Except that they’re true. Also, who really thought it was a good idea to send someone to the violent sections of the border armed with a glorified paintball gun?
A couple more news outlets pick up on the story. And note that feds have now raided the initial buyer of the gun used to kill an ICE agent. Little late there, fellas.
There were allegations of this a couple years back, but ATF is now charging someone with it:
The defendants accomplished this by “harvesting” serial numbers from older machine guns, which would be destroyed, and then welding those serial numbers onto larger, more expensive machine guns that they had manufactured. By so doing, they allegedly evaded the 1986 federal machine gun ban, which prohibited civilians from possessing or transferring machine guns manufactured before May 19, 1986. The indictment says this pattern of conduct involved 34 machine guns, allowing the defendants “to profit from the possession, transfer, and sale of machine guns that the defendants and others were otherwise prohibited to manufacture, possess, transfer, and sell.”
Stamp a registered MAC serial number onto an AR receiver = profit. ATF’s horrid lack of management of the NFRTR database contributed to this scam. And if I were the guys involved, I’d point that out at trial.
Remember, I do this to entertain me, not you.
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