Guns in parks in The City (My The City)
Maryville City Council unanimously ‘opts out’ of handguns in parks, public places
Typical nonsense about people losing their shit at little league games and other unfounded nonsense. And a new one:
Councilman Tommy Hunt said he does not want a situation where the police don’t know who the good guy is or who the bad guy is. He mentioned a case in New York where a young policeman off duty and not in uniform was chasing a thief and, because he was carrying a gun, was shot to death by other police officers.
Brilliant!
August 5th, 2009 at 9:48 am
Doesn’t anyone stand up in these meetings and ask for proof that this is a problem elsewhere?
Somehow, I’ve yet to hear of a single problem here in Florida where people like me carry into libraries, parks, even children’s performances of 101 Dalmatians.
August 5th, 2009 at 9:49 am
I didn’t even know it was on the agenda.
August 5th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Did anyone read the comment on the left of the page?
August 5th, 2009 at 10:46 am
Wow A logical fallacy of a logical fallacy!
We can’t let private citizens carry guns because ONE COP was shot by another cop in the whole country in however many years CCW has been around.
And of course the Police won’t be disarmed….HUH?
August 5th, 2009 at 11:12 am
“Councilman Tommy Hunt said he does not want a situation where the police don’t know who the good guy is or who the bad guy is.”
How about this; Train the cops to be CERTAIN of who’s who before they shoot. The Army and Marines do that. Is it too much stress on the brain for cops to do so as well?
“He mentioned a case in New York where a young policeman off duty and not in uniform was chasing a thief and, because he was carrying a gun, was shot to death by other police officers.”
It sounds to me like the cops are the ones to worry about, not the honest armed public.
August 5th, 2009 at 11:39 am
“He mentioned a case . . ”
Fact, or urban myth? Names? dates? Reported by/ recorded where? Without verification, I call this one BUSTED!
August 5th, 2009 at 12:38 pm
A friend (ex-NYPD detective) told me that one of the reasons the young officer was accidentally shot in NYC was that he did not have his badge out like he was apparently supposed to. Very sad and tragic tale and faults on both sides of the shooting.
August 5th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
First off, in an active shooter situation, the cops shoot anyone with a gun in their hand. When the cops show up, your gun should be ‘not in your hand’
Secondly, research has shown the most off-duty/undercover cops shot by police are shot because they fail to comply. They, being cops, don’t register that the commands of the responding officers apply to them. They turn suddenly with their hands at their belt, or what turns out to be a badge or a gun in their hand, etc. The responding officers don’t know the person is a cop. So cop gets shot just like regular people acting that way.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
It is a good idea to attend all county or town council meetings, especially when you know this issue is going to come up. That is what a good citizen does to keep these nanny staters down.
August 5th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Well, strong logic is not in the cards that most anti-gunners hold.
I’ve been looking at hiking sections of the Appalachian Trial. The AT organization has some nice materials online. The main PDF guide has a big section on safety. On page 18 they have a paragraph on why, even where legal, you should not carry a gun.
Their logic: “they (guns) could be turned against you or result in an accidental shooting.”
Instead, I should be “wary of strangers”, “dress conservatively” not bring expensive gear, “use trail registers, the notebooks a most shelters”. Lunacy, I tell you.
Limit your enjoyment and be afraid.
I find this odd since their bear advice is “If you are actually attacked by a bear, you should fight for all you are worth with anything at hand – rocks, stick, fists”.
Sometimes I really have to wonder about people.
Otter
August 5th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
“Councilman Tommy Hunt said he does not want a situation where the police don’t know who the good guy is or who the bad guy is.”
That’s easy. The bad guy is the one bleeding on the ground. I don’t pull my gun (or at least, show it) unless a life is in eminent danger. If it’s dangerous enough to pull then it’s dangerous enough and you are already authorized to eliminate the threat. Then put it away once you are sure the danger is eliminated. Standing around waving a gun is NOT a wise thing to do.
JAS
August 5th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
Tommy, here come up close and speak into the bone-a-phone. All that feel good thing your doing sounds a lot like fellatio to garner appreciation from those dumb enough to let you close.
August 6th, 2009 at 2:11 am
“Be sure of your target and what’s behind it.”
Obviously not one of those things they teach the Only Ones in NYC.