Shotgun Approach
This morning’s discussion on the local vast right wing conspiracy radio was that, in Mississippi, a high school student wanted to take her lesbian partner to the prom. The school said no. The ACLU said yes. So the school just cancelled the prom.
March 11th, 2010 at 12:10 pm
Look at it this way in 20 years she will still be the most popular girl in the high school reunions. No one ever said popularity was a good thing. I expect there to be quite a few mean, vengeful pranks conducted against this girl and her girlfriend. Gun owners get this treatment times 1000 every day so I am not crying to hard about these brats. If the fags and dikes were treated as badly as gun owners their precious following would have never have gotten started. Its hard to cry for people who have hardly had to fight for what they believe. The Media, politicians , most major cities all support them while the opposite is true for gun owners. They have no laws supporting them and have more rights then a gun owner. We have a damn amendment and that is still not enough to stop persecution.
March 11th, 2010 at 12:12 pm
Probably. But it’s not them ruining it for everyone. It’s the school.
March 11th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
Heh, I got Dumped by my long-term Girlfriend right after prom (She was already seeing somebody else, I later found out, but I guess she didn’t want to have bought that fancy dress for nothing), so I guess one less Prom for me would have been a plus. That being said, a close friend of mine (one who I just so happen to be married to today) brought a friend who she was not romantically involved with and had a hell of a time.
So maybe it’s not all bad. : ]
March 11th, 2010 at 12:48 pm
How exactly did these girls think they would react to an ACLU lawsuit by bending to their will? Teenage folly. They will not bend for us and they definitely will not bend for them. Sorry cannot buy that it is all the schools fault. I could understand if the girl filed the lawsuit then the cancellation would have been a 50-50 tie. However when you bring the most liberal political group in America into it what you get is a force multiplier. Also how can you say the school is wrong without supporting the ACLU. In this case the school did not discriminate. They treated everyone equally. The students are not blind. They will see that their school was forced to back down by 2 students and the ACLU. Rather then change or discriminate they canceled the whole shindig. With a lawsuit there is no prom. Without a lawsuit there would be a prom. 2 spoiled brats ruined it for everyone. Their mentality is I am special because I am different and the rules should change just for me. That is what is called a teenager.
March 11th, 2010 at 12:58 pm
School made the right decision. But I wonder why the ACLU is upset with the decision. Everybody is being treated equally now.
March 11th, 2010 at 2:33 pm
“Probably. But it’s not them ruining it for everyone. It’s the school.”
More likely, they just got the school out of the prom business and now the parents will have to handle it. In my senior year ~15 years ago, a teachers contract dispute meant that the Senior Prom was planned by the senior class officers and their parents using Senior Class funds. It went fine.
Also, in my school couples got discounted rates which are much harder to break even with than the higher prices charged to those going stag. If they had let same-sex couples use the discount rates, all the girls going stag would have paired up whether they were gay or not. Boys probably not so much. This would have had a significant effect on the prom’s financing. Several girls tried to work this angle even back in my day. Two girls could have gone together as two singles, but not as a discounted couple.
March 11th, 2010 at 2:37 pm
I guess I am in the opposite camp as some of the commenters. Why should the school care if a girl brings another girl to prom? It’s not like they are going to 69 right in the middle of the dance floor.
For all you religous right types, GET OVER IT! You can hate “teh gayz” all you want but it isn’t going to change anything. These girls aren’t going to turn around and say “Oh, I can’t take my Girlfriend to prom? I have seen the error or my ways. I am now strait”. It isn’t going to happen. There is no sence in fighting something that you can’t change. Being gay does not make someone less of a person.
Well… Now it seems I’m fighting something I can not change. Suffice it to say, the ACLU is there to help people like these girls and it’s nice that someone is. I agree that the ACLU is a bunch of hypocrites when it comes to the second amendment, and they sometimes pick stupid cases of imagined, made up descrimination, but sometimes they get it right, and I think this is one of those times.
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March 11th, 2010 at 3:04 pm
No. But I think I’ve seen that movie.
March 11th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
It’s less than a month before their prom was scheduled. I’ve not worked on such a project, but I’d expect there’s a lot of sunk costs in manpower, time, and equipment rentals already. Either that means violating the contracts for ticket sales, or refunding any sold tickets and covering the difference from other funds. A waste of money — and, more relevantly, a waste of our money.
And I don’t buy the ACLU-scares-us thing. If some piss-stain of a township in Massachusetts does something godawful stupid, I want the whole might of the NRA-ILA lawyers pointed their direction, and the argument that they’re enforcing a godawful stupid decision on everyone buys very little sympathy.
You can quite legitimately disagree with the legal decision. I don’t trust public schools with that level of power, but it is up to you. On the other hand, the petty and wasteful acts of a foolish public school administration are of very little value.
March 11th, 2010 at 3:52 pm
What Jeff said – and I think schools have no business running dances on taxpayer dollars anyway. At least not if they’re ever complaining about being underfunded or understaffed or needing more money to do their actual job of teaching.
(Contra gattsuru, I think the “waste of our money” was that they were spending any on a Prom in the first place, canceled or not.)
Can’t parents pay for social activities their kids participate in? (And, of course, only some of the, since not everyone is interested in THE PROM ZOMG!@#.)
March 11th, 2010 at 5:11 pm
Good. Waste of money and resources anyway.
If high schoolers want to have a drunken orgy, they can pay for it themselves.
March 11th, 2010 at 5:20 pm
Hmm, my prom 25 years ago was off campus, planned by the junior class and paid for by the students.
March 11th, 2010 at 7:39 pm
A girl was going to take her lesbian girlfriend?
Man, I’ll be every member of the football and wrestling team was really bummed out over the cancellation.
March 11th, 2010 at 7:54 pm
Well, I’m confused how this became an issue at all. Does the school require people to register their dates or something? At my prom (ball actually but whatever) we just bought tickets, it’s not like we had to ask permission from the school to take a specific date.
So… they couldn’t just buy tickets and go? They had to make a scene? Nice job. The school might have a policy, but without an overt challenge to the policy, how the hell is it going to be a problem? Not the hill to take a stand on, in my opinion.
March 11th, 2010 at 8:37 pm
@ Stuart
69 on the floor? Heh. that would be a prom worth going to.
@ SayUncle
I did too.
March 11th, 2010 at 8:58 pm
The students were going to do a four-hour clothed interpretive dance of the Kama Sutra, to music so explicit that bleeping out the offensive portions would render the audio to morse code.
Now the damned lesbians ruined it for everyone! Thank God the administration is protecting our kids from that filth.
March 11th, 2010 at 9:16 pm
At mine (both junior and senior) we had to get permission if our date didn’t go to our school, so maybe this school did require students to register beforehand. It’s not that unbelievable, these days.
March 11th, 2010 at 10:05 pm
My school didn’t have proms or even allow dances of any kind. The Southern Baptists didn’t approve of dancing, you see. They would much rather you go parking and impregnate their sixteen year-old daughter in the back seat of your car, than commit the sin of dancing which “might” lead to thoughts of sex.
Wierd, man, really wierd.
March 12th, 2010 at 5:01 am
So the government is getting out of the prom business?
Good.
Now, if only we can get them out of the education business completely …